Needed: Honest Advice on high-end amps- either mono or stereo


I'm perplexed by the offering of high end amps. I have heard some really expensive amps- ARC 300m, D'Agostino, Burmeister,  the 1200w Macs- all impressive but....

In your HONEST opinion- are the THAT good? 

For the money (Let's pretend you and I  can afford them- may of us can) are they transformative? Exceptional? WAYYY better than a lesser mortals out there? 

Forget economic proportionality- most of us are wealthy. We can pay to play. My question is: are they EXCEPTIONAL or just moderately better for much more money? 

This is an honest question seeking thoughtful answers..... 

 

 

yesiam_a_pirate

“Most of us are wealthy” WTF?  If you read these

forums and give a damn about other people you couldn’t help but notice the number of posts from people who have very specific budgets for a component they want to upgrade, and most of those posts are not the posts of wealthy people, just people who love music and want it to sound as good as possible in their homes

for what they can afford to spend. Now are most of these people doing ok? Probably. Wealthy? Probably not by any standard definition used in the US

I believe the focus is too strongly and exclusively aimed at the amplifier, indeed it's indicative of an underlying issue. Instead the question should be formulated: how well can a speaker be made to sound, and what are the bottlenecks to avoid in the amp-to-speaker interface to best and most effectively get there?

Improving on said interface, to begin with simply by removing the passive crossover to make way for active configuration, is a way to maximize not only the performance envelope of the amp itself, but also the drivers of a speaker. With further, specific "tailoring" from a more holistic approach the amp to speaker/driver package can be made to sound that much better, and at a much lower price, even with more amp channels necessitated for each driver segment instead of wasting power and performance envelope looking into a fiendishly heavy passive crossover load before the amp can get its handle on the driver(s).  

I'm not necessarily saying a hugely expensive behemoth of an amplifier wouldn't make a difference or even improvement over a much cheaper ditto in a passive speaker context, but it's a "one size fits all"-approach that's invariably and inherently compromised, and one that will make the price of the amp spiral into stratospheric levels in the effort to try and ameliorate the negative influence of the heave load passive crossover itself. 

Obviously there are great sounding passively configured amp to speaker combos out there, but from my chair you'll end up paying dearly for something that could've been done much cheaper actively. I guess it's symptomatic of an underlying tendency to revel over singular components - at least more than looking at the totality in which they're involved from a configurative perspective - and the sense of pride that comes from having paid large sums of $$$ on equipment.

I’ll likely be shot for this, but unless you have power hungry speakers you can get away with a small integrated box of magic that will blow your mind. I just picked up a NAD M10v3 integrated Streamer Amplifier.

100w, super quiet, uncolored sound. and has more features than an old guy will ever figure out without a lot of reading. Got one for $2200 and it’s the best thing since sliced bread, to me. Pair it with a sub and a Bluesound Powernode for rear speakers and it turns into a true Dolby 4.1 Surround system. You don’t need a center channel. Add up to 60 wireless speakers around your property and you’ve got something insane. No need to spend a lot of money today on clean amplification….and you get so many other bells and whistles that you won’t find them all. MM Phono, DAC, Stream and wireless broadcasting….with a badass amplifier.

Ok, I’ll shut up and listen up for critics input. 

@andym23456 

You are correct. You can get away with budget equipment and enjoy the results. But some folks are intrigued and become obsessed and what extraordinary sound. The high end stuff is for them. 

audphile1  The Boulder amp will give you goosebumps with a musical and engaging source components. It sounds incredible in my system fed by a Meitner DAC. Very natural, musically satisfying it reproduces music as natural as it was recorded and gives you a true picture.

Please share. Do you have a link to your system sound? I love to listen a good music. Alex/WTA