I'd like some recommendations for speaker cables


I understand this is a touchy subject.  My intent is NOT to have this result in that typical cable discussion. All opinions welcome.

As an update, in a previous thread I was asking for upgrade recommendations.  I ended up trading for a Hana Umami blue.  It's great and I appreciate the advice.

I've since bought a set of long (25') XLRs to run between my amp and pre-amp, which has enabled me to move my component rack behind the listening position closer to the media.  It was between the speakers.  Now, the only thing between the speakers is my amp, and it's at floor level.  This has made a huge difference in the soundstage, the accuracy and the location of things in the sound space.  Great improvement.

The XLRs I was using to run between my amp and pre-amp were entry level high end cables.  I replaced them with normal Mic cable.  Well, high end mic cable.  And the high end mic cable is way better than the audiophile high end brand cable.  I'll go as far to say the audiophile cable is awful.  I've since ordered another pair of XLRs, from a different manufacturer, to replace them.

I also replaced my speaker cables with mogami 3103 that I terminated myself.  They sound "darker" and less detailed then the cable I was using, which I'm unsure of the manufacturer of my previous cable.  I plan to re-terminate my previous cable in bananas to compare some more.  My previous cable was, maybe, too bright.  Don't get me wrong, the Momagi is good, just not what I think I prefer.

My main question is, If I'm looking for detail and a "brighter" sound, what speaker cables would you recommend I try?  

Also, do most dealers let you try cables?  It's not ridiculous to think I could work with a dealer to try to hone in on what I like, right?

dothebluecolts

 @waterloo333 I also happened to have a pair of Mogami 3082s.  I used them briefly.  I wouldn't say they're better than 3104s or even as good as them.  I need more time with them to make any real opinion on sound quality.  I've been on an assembling (cannot really call it building) of cables jig.   I have been reading up on the science of electrical transmission, propagation through a cable, as much as I can understand, and keeping it hopefully a fun project so I can get past some of the more ridiculous designs, designs not based on any objective theory or empirical data.  I also get it when something seems to actually work with no basis of any measurable data.   I do like the people at Blue Jeans Cable Co.  They have recommended some interesting papers, plus introduced me to Beldens Iconoclast line of super premium products.  Also, what works with a solid state amp might behave quite differently with tubes, something that is of low wattage as opposed to an amp that acts like a pure voltage source to the speaker. 

 

 

lovehifi22

To the OP and anyone else who may have a suggestion,

I, too, moved all my components to the side wall and have only the amp between the speakers. Soundstage was noticeably better. I use a pair of 30' XLR cables that I feel could be better. I'm looking to upgrade, and I never thought of a mic cable. May I ask where you purchased them from? Also, any other ideas would be most appreciated.  Thank you.

Any of the online places that sell music equipment.  Like guitar center, musician's friend or Sweetwater.  I also bought a set of blue jean XLRs, 3 foot pair.

I bought Mogami studio gold for the 25' pair.  Would have bought the platinum if I'd known there was something better, ha ha.

 

 

 

 

As far as the speaker cables go, I’ve been switching back and forth from the original speaker cable I had, an unkown brand, and the Mogami 3103. 

The unknown cable seems to have more "color", which I like, but it seems to be grainy compared to the Mogami, or less clear. It was four individual wires I wrapped together in the banana.  I think, overall, when combined it’s a larger gauge.

The Mogami seems to have better detail, even though it seems a bit lifeless when compared to the other cable.

I’m just going to keep trying different cables.  I can’t help but believe that maybe the higher gauge may be the reason for more "color" or openness maybe.

I have always used blue jeans cables, never tried any other brand. Today Kimber Kable 8TC arrived. The Blue Jeans speaker cables are from the BAV   in the Iconoclast line. The spades in the Blue Jeans never really fit well to big or to small even when they sent me that card to check the size. The Kimber fit perfect in my First Watt Sit-4 and the Pass Labs XA-25 which has that little plastic cover over the posts for some safety thing. The Bi-wire bananas for the speakers sure fit snug, the Blue Jeans Banana was always a pain to get tight and comes  loose. Was nice to get that nasty little jumper wire off on the binding posts of my Volti Audio Lucera speakers going bi-wire..I scored the Kimber 8TC  off their eBay site for half price  and you have to make sure it’s Kimber Kable direct on eBay from Utah to avoid counterfeits. I also got a couple RCA Kimber interconnects to change out the Blue Jeans and will put them in later after I listen to the speaker cables. For  half price  I can’t find any signs of wear on anything, everything looks brand new totally impressed with the build quality. After a few hours of listening the only difference I hear is the tone is a little different, in the following days when I am reading and not paying attention to the music hopefully I go oh my I heard something…but so far for the build quality alone they are a keeper. 
Pass Labs XP-12 preamp, First Watt Sit-4 amp, Meinter MA3i Dac , Volti Audio Lucera speakers for the testing gear.

 

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