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Impressions of Harbeth M30.3 XD2 Speakers?

Hello,

I'm considering a purchase of the newly released Harbeth M30.3 XD2 speakers. As I haven't seen these reviewed anywhere, I wonder if anyone has heard them and can report on how they compare to previous iterations of the M30?

Thanks for any guidance!

 

krippner
jfrmusic
407 posts
 

Auditioned the SHL5, M30 and the C7ES-XD and chose the C7. You can’t go wrong with any of these speakers. They have a wonderful midrange that makes music come alive. The 30 for me was too monitor like with a warmer midrange than I like and a less open and airy soundstage. The SHL 5 was similar to the 30 but with a much deeper low end. The C7 is the outlier in the range. It’s not specifically of the  BBC monitor heritage like the others. It’s Alan Shaw’s own design. It has a surprisingly impactful low end. Significantly better than the 30 and close to the SHL5. And the soundstage and imaging is exceptional. But the characteristic that truly sets these speakers apart from other brands is the beautiful life like midrange. Vocalists and instrumentalists are in the room. Audition this line if you can, especially if you love acoustic music such as Classical, Jazz or well recorded vocal artists. 

cundare2
329 posts
 
@jfrmusic  +1

 

You’re right on the money.  There’s a reason why the C7 is reputed to be Shaw’s favorite model.  I originally bought my pair on Art Dudley’s recommendation.  I was pining for my Quad ESLs, which I was forced to sell during a downsizing move, and Art told me something like "Everyone who sells their Quads eventually regrets the decision, but a Harbeth C7 is the closest thing you’ll get to Quad voicing out of a box." 

In retrospect, he was 95% right.  Especially if you don’t have a lot of space, C7s complemented by a pair of outstanding subs -- I’m talking about Perlistens here, not RELs -- won’t duplicate the ESL’s (as JGH once said) "pant-wetting midrange", but for a total system cost well under $10K, they come amazingly close, with a thunderous low end to boot.  And they’re small enough for an apartment, stable enough to be driven by just about anything, & light enough for a senior citizen (like me) to physically handle with aplomb. 

Sometimes the upgrade bug gets me and I think about auditioning MBLs or Vivids or whatever.  But then I fire up the Harbeths with a UHQR or Living Stereo and just forget about the whole idea.  The bigger Harbeths boast greater dynamic range and bass extension, and like jfrmusic says, you simply can’t go wrong with any of ’em.  But IMHO, the sweet spot in the product line is the C7, regardless of whether you’re thinking about an E3, XD, XD2, or any other iteration.

Over the years, I’ve upgraded repeatedly from a $1500 ELAC Class D amp & Ortofon 2M Black MM cartridge to a $20,000 T+A amp & DS Audio optical. And at no time could I consider the C7s to be a weak link.

My 2c.

 

cundare2
329 posts
 

Sorry that I answered a question different than the one that the OP asked. But hey, this is Audiogon, if you know what I mean.

Re: Harbeth's frequent updates, I don't see anything sinister or manipulative about them.  The company culture entails constantly fine-tuning its products and every once in a while it releases an interim upgrade.  I of course have not heard every version of every model, but in general, I believe that each update is a second-order improvement. That is, every iteration is, foremost, instantly recognizable as a Harbeth box.  The upgrades, usually involving internal cabling, crossover components, or driver materials, generally deliver the kind of sonic improvements that require direct A-B comparisions for most people to hear. 

So I'd wager that the difference between the M.30 XD and XD2 is no greater than the difference between the M30 XD2 and a C7ES-3 XD2 (other than the aforementioned bass extension & dynamics).

Thus, IMHO, the decision whether to upgrade is a toss-up.  If you're unhappy with your XD, or consider it the weakest link in your system, OK.  But if you like what you hear now, maybe the cost and effort may be too much for a relatively tiny sonic improvement.  But only you can make that decision. If you can't audition the XD & XD2 side by side, it's a coin toss, based on the limited information and personal opinions you'll get here & from TAS/Stereophile.

But I bet you've already gathered that!  Audiogon is a great place to chat and make friends (so long as the trolls don't come out).  But as an information source upon which to make mulikilobuck decisions -- not always so much.

etph
5 posts
 

I have had a pair of Harbeth 30.2XD’s for 5 years and I love them (with REL S/512 subwoofers, Rogue Stereo 100 amp and RP7 preamp)  but I am a bit bored with them and think there are better out there.  Maybe soundstage and dynamic range is not great. I mostly listen to jazz but when I switch to other genres like classical or rock, they do not have the same realism and complexity. I have heard other speakers in sound rooms that I like but I am afraid that if when I get them into my small room, they will sound different. Koffibafour notes that there are better but can you suggest what would sound good in a small treated room?  30.2 price or even up to twice higher. Any opinions from Koffibafour or others? Maybe I don’t know what I want because I haven’t heard better in my room but I would appreciate any advice from more experienced listeners.

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