Help! Advice and Recommendations please (system sounds bad)


Good day everyone,

I am at the end of my wits. After being without my rig for 11 months due to a move, I am trying to dial in my system with horrible results at the new home. 

 

I feel it goes beyond room differences and speaker placement.

Everything is identical (except the sound). 

 

I would love a recommendation for someone in the CHICAGOLAND AREA that would be a good fit to tune my system. 

 

In the meantime, I humbly ask the the group for any opinions on things to try. I am hoping that one of the settings is just wrong on the plate amps or the crossover, but I have experimented with all I can think of. I  hope it is my ignorance on something obvious. 

 

The mids seem muddled. Not rich. I am getting some perceived distortion and harshness when the mids peak.  When the music is displaying a strong full spectrum I lose a lot of detail and separation. 

The soundstage seems to lack depth. The speakers do not disappear as much. 

 

It feels as though something is not being very efficient. Please note that the mid and low dials on the crossover, at my previous home, was turned to about 2:00-3:00. Now it is closer to 11:00. I had to turn  it down otherwise the problems with the mids were worse. 

 

I have the high gain setting selected on my DAC. Low seemed incredibly dull. I am utilizing the mid/high and sub inputs on the crossover. 

 

I have included pics of the setting and room. Thank you in advance for any help. It is greatly appreciated. 

Equipment:

I know you have access to all the audiophile publications, reviews , and best practices, owners manuals, and such. I have the following two-channel system:

Conrad Johnson Art Mono block amps

Conrad Johnson Act 2 series 2 pre-amp

Magnepan 3.7i speakers 

Lampizator DAC

SublimeAcoustic K231 3 Way Active Crossover

2 GR Research 3x12 subwoofer towers powered by a rythmik A370PEQ plate amp. 

jordanmj

Although it sounds like the xover might be the culprit, those are two very different listening spaces. If you are trying to achieve a duplicate of what you had, you probably won't get there unless you treat the new room accordingly.

OP    After being without my rig for 11 months due to a move, I am trying to dial in my system with horrible results at the new home. 

1) Your ears became normal due to not listening hi-fi seriously for 11 months. In previous house, your ears were easily get into the immersive hearing mode which ignore harsh distortion noise from your system. Also, your ears might be in numb state due to harsh audio sounds and your ears were used it. Anyway it’s a good thing that your ears can hear any sound correctly now. Use this chance wisely.

2) Check out if there is any noise around your home from construction or water fountain. Any slight sound from in/outside can disturb the hi-fi sound. Human can’t hear a natural sound and un-natural sound together at same time. Ex.1) We say to noisy talking people in audio show "please be quiet. Let me hear the music."  Ex.2) A dog barking outside can be irritation when listening music. 

Try to hear your voice and speaker’s sound together. Say "hello" repeat with your speaker sounds.

Watch  Natural sound vs. Un-natural sound comparison

Alex/Wavetouch audio

Excellent system.  Some recommendations.  
 

1:  The mids seem muddled. Not rich…When the music is displaying a strong full spectrum I lose a lot of detail and separation.  These observations appear to me to be related to room acoustics, where there is cancellation and reinforcement modes muddling the mids and loosing detail and separation, especially at increased volume where the acoustic pressure may overload the room.  The recommended fix in the literature is speaker placement and absorption room treatments.  
2:  … getting some perceived distortion and harshness when the mids peak…This is more difficult. I think you indicate system was not in use for some months.  If you have not done so already, clean all contacts and treat them with the contact enhancer of your choice, and check all tubes.  If you moved to a more populated area, you may have increased mains noise or EM emissions.   You can have this measured or buy meters.  I do not see a power conditioner listed.  You may benefit from one.  Finally, if your previous location was a solid floor and now you are on a suspended floor, you may be experiencing effects of vibration feedback.  Decoupling your speakers may help.  

Good luck experimenting.   I am confident you will get back to the SQ you remember.  Ava in, excellent, well thought out system.  

Looked at your old room set up, it looked like it might sound great. I'm not so confident about your new room set up. I suspect that your issues might be helped by moving your speakers forward or backward to find the best balanced location so your bass response is smooth. Maybe involving moving your subs as well. In that respect I would probably set up my main speakers first without the subs and after I found their best location incorporate the subs. You may find totally different locations that will work well if not better.  Your photos make your set up seem a bit more congested (than your prior room). You might move your speakers a tad closer to the side walls (not such a big deal with panel speakers),and as rvpiano suggests, reduce their toe-in. I cannot tell from your photos but I assume you have your listening chair triangulated with your speakers. You might try moving your chair(?) backward and forward a bit. I note your present room is more problematic because of its dimensions. You might (if you can or if you haven't) consider firing them down the long dimension of the room. 

Good luck. :-)