Let's talk music, no genre boundaries


This is an offshoot of the jazz thread. I and others found that we could not talk about jazz without discussing other musical genres, as well as the philosophy of music. So, this is a thread in which people can suggest good music of all genres, and spout off your feelings about music itself.

 

audio-b-dog

I dont give a damn about trends we must be conscious of ...devil

I am interested only by individual musicians not so much by trends : be it  jazz, classical, or Persian and Indian etc...

 Some trends even  repulse me even if the musician is a good one... Sorry (  Commercial or industrialized  Pop  and rock etc ) 

I look for individual musicians genius, nevermind the culture or musical language...

for example: i dont like the Opera genre , but there is many operas i love a lot to death...

Same is true for jazz, or even classical...

Who can rival Bruckner or Gesualdo genius ? Very few  and they  are in the great names ...

I dont like symphonic music but i love Beethoven and Bruckner till madness or Schumann fourth or Mahler etc or Robert Simpsons ( A genius not even well known ) etc ...

I dont like quatuors... But Beethoven quatuors are pure transcendental music ...

I finally understand i like musicians more than music itself...Some are Godly...

 

 How many musicians can direct Schutz music ?  Not much...

Try Mauersberger  Schutz  "Geistliche Chormusic " , i listened to it near 1000 times... How did i know the count ?

Easy: i wrote for 4 years a project and i listened to Schutz each night when writing  for 4 years with Bach various Choral pieces and Klavier ...

I dont like Schutz as much alone as the musician Mauersberger able to recreate the musical time dimension rythms and pulse behind the written score. The creative rythms in Schutz is here in this work  a perfect mix of German depth and weight with the Italian wings and "lightness of being ". There is no one who can catch this  paradoxal mix as Mauersberger directing the Chor...Incredible  and strong as the stronger addictive  drug after one listening, because like in the 7th symphony of Beethoven we feel the creative pulse of the Cosmos and human heart as One. 

Music is ecstasy not just fun...Spiritual transformation not just leisure...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnZQ0EPuNqk

 

@audio-b-dog 

We can go around and around with this. I’m a writer, too. And while I recognize the  value of "authentic detail", what interests me more is what doesn’t change from one generation to the next.  

I agree that Spotify is not the best indicator of fidelity. If I like what I hear on Spotify or youtube or No Depression, I will buy the CD. If it turns out to be a poor-sounding disc (irritating to listen to), I’ll add it to my stack of CDs that I take up to Eugene with me each time me I visit my mom, knowing I can get more in trade for them up there than around here. I don’t actually end up buying many CDs that fall into this category, though. It’s more common that my initial positive impressions don’t stand up to the scrutiny of repeated exposure once I’ve got my hands on the disc. In other words, "operator error" comes into play. 

 

@mahgister 

Spiritual transformation not just leisure...

Indeed. And the process of growth is not necessarily a "walk in the park". 

 

A marvellous video about speakers done like musical instrument :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTCtitxkNvc

A Speaker Built Like a Wind Instrument: 50 Years in Pursuit of Perfect Sound

I like it because i discovered many years ago in my first dedicated audio room that system/speakers/room/ears  are one musical instrument  or one very complex resonator ...

Now the thread is about music...

Sound and music are one we can distinguish them perfectly but we cannot separate them...

In speech  sound and meaning are perfectly distinguishable but we cannot separate them...

It is possible to appreciate Bruckner 5 th symphony about the "meaning of life"  like an NDE  experience translated into music  (it is my perception of this symphony) from your phone with bad earbuds, but it is easier to pick this meaning on a very good system/room for a better meditation on this very complex but very deep masterpiece.

 It is the only  Bruckner symphony with a perfectly completed finale with his eight symphony, a finale putting all pieces or  preceding movements  together as ONE using a  breathtaking masterful fugue in the finale ...An experience you cannot forgot especially after the second very meditative listening....it is impossible to understand this symphony at first listening save if you are a genius. I am not. It takes me the second listening to "see"  the  "movie"  clearly so to speak ...

I like Celibidache 5th spiritual depth ...Celibidache make the orchestra speak not only doing music but telling a story...It is real cinema...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOTzCgMxy_o&list=RDiOTzCgMxy_o&start_radio=1