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Walk-in soundstage

Coupled with his Weiss DAC 204 and T+A DAC 200, Mr. Steve Huff claimed to have experienced the so-called "walk-in soundstage" when using the Lumin U2 as the streaming transporter. This refers to a deeply immersive, three-dimensional stereo image where the listener perceives the musical space as so realistic and spacious that it feels as if one could physically walk into the soundstage.

This level of presentation is notably different from the more common “layered” sound field that many average listeners or reviewers report—where the sound is merely projected in front of the listener with some layering or spatial envelopment.

I'm curious how many of you have also experienced this effect in your own systems and listening spaces. If you're open to sharing, I'd love to hear about the components and setup that helped you achieve it.

  

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deer_creek_audio
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Swapping, mixing and matching high fidelity components and cables is a long cherished audiophile activity which undoubtedly has produced countless hours of audio enjoyment.

The drawback to this process is the amount of time and expense that it consumes. Today with digital signal processing (DSP) you can tune and optimize your system real time.

First start by combining excellent speakers, modern power amplifiers with a digital source which will leverage Dirac or other DSP System / Room correction algorithms.

Once you have your speakers positioned, the next  step is to optimize your system using tools like REW and Dirac Live room correction. Now you can make adjustments,  listen to the results and measure the results rapidly. It’s enlightening to be able to make adjustments to your system and measure them in real time. About Deer Creek Audio

Here are some examples of Dirac Live correction 

 

 

 

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@deer_creek_audio  Thank you for the DSP/RC recommendation. I had been experimenting with Wiim RC/PEQ to boost the missing low end, but since the arrival of the two sub-$1k DACs, the bass has really come alive.  I want to get an external mic. to get more accurate SPL measurement for my room though.

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@richardbrand  Thank you for letting me know about the various improvements Quad has made to enhance the performance of the ESL, such as increased volume and improved bass. Has there been any discussion regarding the treble roll-off above 10 kHz (as seen in the ESL 2805)? I’ve never seen a roll-off quite like that.

pkatsuleas
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Geez, people still paying attention to Steve Huff?  The guys a grifter and fraud.  Makes a living talking to the dead with his spirit box, or whatever he calls it.  
Talk about snake oil!!!

I like seeing different gear almost as much as the next guy but can’t stomach Huff.  He should be ashamed of himself.  

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If you want to read someone who know a bit much than gear name and price and "colors" read Dr. Edgar Choueiri  articles and youtube videos and you will understand why audio is not about electronical design first but about physical acoustics and psycho-acoustics...

And you will understand why even honest reviewers miss the main point about audio...

 

I am interested by theoretical acoustics because speech mystery, hearing mystery,  are key to understand audio but especially ourselves as beings ...

https://www.theoretica.us/References/Immersive_Sound_(Excerpts_from_Chapter_5).pdf

 

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