Let's talk music, no genre boundaries

@acman3 

Stuartk, In my personal experience, listening, getting, and yes, tolerating, many times lead to liking

Perhaps I simply lack sufficient patience for hanging out in the "zone of tolerance" long enough for it to transition to "liking".  When I go back, re-listen, I almost never find something I haven’t liked in the past has become appealing. But it also works the other way -- what I like, I tend to like for a very long time.   

@mahgister 

I dont know if i takes the times i will learn how to  appreciate every single individual artists. I dont think so.

For each singular artist i listen my gut and my feeling guide me...i rarely change my mind...But there exist a slow changin evolution in my musical journey...

Perhaps I’m interpreting this in a way you don’t intend, but I relate...

@frogman 

For me, music is spiritualism. Good music. Felt music. In Bach's Mass in B Minor he treats the music as spiritual. It comes from a place that is beyond Jesus and Dogma. A place that has existed in humanity since we became humanity. As one scholar of religion and art said, "With ancient humanity art and religion were the same thing. There was no distinction."

In doing research for the book I am writing, I have discovered a spiritual aspect of myself. I find that most religious dogma stands in the way of this spiritualism. Not to say that religious people can't get past it in music, art, writing, etc. 

I am absolutely open to the fact that the lack of understanding is within me. And that Haydn is expressing the same spiritualism as Bach in the B Minor Mass. 

A big part of the reason why I like modern classical and jazz is that the composers and musicians understand that music is spiritual in and of itself. We don't need to connect it to any dogma or sect. Certain musicians, in my mind, are connected to the universe's spiritual source. Others, be they Christians, Jews, Muslims, or whatever, do not bring that connection to that spiritual source for me. And I reiterate "for me." I have been brought up with my own biases just like everyone else.

I love music that calls out fascism and injustice.

When  our friend intend we relate ...

Perhaps I’m interpreting this in a way you don’t intend, but I relate...