Let's talk music, no genre boundaries


This is an offshoot of the jazz thread. I and others found that we could not talk about jazz without discussing other musical genres, as well as the philosophy of music. So, this is a thread in which people can suggest good music of all genres, and spout off your feelings about music itself.

 

audio-b-dog

@frogman thatnks for that link. I never heard of this Haydn oratorio! Listening to it now.

I much prefer Haydn's choral/liturgical writing to instrumental (I'm probably alone in feeling that way, but there it is).

@frogman 

Here is the search criteria I used to find the Callas performance:

maria callas puccini la rondine youtube video

I see three choices. I took the third choice where I saw a picture of Callas and the baritone (probaby famous) that was 5 minutes and 18 seconds. The baritone sets it up and then Callas comes in. I hope you can get the subtitles because they added a lot for me.I’ve seen it performed twice, but who can remember what was said in the beginning?

I would like to talk further about art in general. As a writer I have had to make choices about "inside" and "outside." I will ask people this: Who has read "Ulysses" or "Finnigan’s Wake" all the way through? More later when I have more time.

i will put the Mozart Requiem with Bach great mass and Bruckner great mass...I prefer the Hogwood version. Why ?  Because it direct it as an opera of the soul more than a liturgical mass. With children chorus. Astounding interpretation that beat even the others astounding one. What means this "a soul opera" ?

We all fear of dying and we all ask for mercy...

Mozart genius is so great his soul opera communicate this and only this perfectly...

Only Hogwood genius understood this and instead of a mass deliver the greatest soul opera ever written...

 

 A word about Antal Dorati genius un Haydn, i concur with frogman, a stupendous version...

But do you know the Dorati version of Liszt masterpiece "Christus"  which is also as the Te deum of Bruckner and the Mozart requiem a "soul opera" not only a liturgical piece ?

I understood Liszt only the day i heard a pianist able to play him...

Then i realized i knew nothing about Liszt mastery after Dorati  Christus, which inspired Bruckner...

Liszt is a musical genius not just a pianist  on par with all the greatest ...

 

 

 

I prefer John Cowper Powys to Joyce litterary madness (genius) ...

I could not read neither of these two works ...Anyway for someone not mastering litterary English it is impossible...

I advise everyone to read Morwynn of Powys to begin with ... A tale about evil and Hell ... Powys was a seer not just a writer obsessed by writings as Joyce was ...

Who has read "Ulysses" or "Finnigan’s Wake" all the way through? More later when I have more time.

@audio-b-dog 

I would like to talk further about art in general. As a writer I have had to make choices about "inside" and "outside." I will ask people this: Who has read "Ulysses" or "Finnigan’s Wake" all the way through? More later when I have more time.

I certainly haven’t.

RE: poetry, as a reader, I favor poets who prioritize clarity of meaning. I have little patience for poetry that is obscure in this regard. 

For this reason, and also because a primary motivation for me for writing poetry is to gain a deeper understanding of myself and the human experience, my tendency is to strive for clarity as well. 

If pushed too far, this can be a detriment, of course. There must be space for the unconscious to make leaps; for an element of mystery.  I'm not striving for logic, just a fundamental quality of intelligibility.