Jazz for aficionados

@mahgister 

I can see how the dazzling, uplifting Armstrong would be the progenitor solar body and the nocturnal, melancholic Baker, the moon, but I'm not sure about Miles as Jupiter. Perhaps because Miles went through so many stylistic shifts, I'm finding it challenging to see what remained constant and characterize whatever that essence was, metaphorically. He was creatively restless; always looking forward to the next phase. I'm not sure what his capacity for reinvention suggests in terms of astronomnical phenomenon. He was of course one of the greatest band-leaders, in terms of magnetically bringing together shifting constellations of highly gifted players into his orbit or gravitational field... so many bright bodies... Coltrane, Hancock, Carter, Williams, Shorter, Holland, Corea, McLaughlin, Jarrett, etc. Perhaps if I was more scientifically astute, your analogy would be clearer to me.

@audio-b-dog 

I agree that Grisman transcends the genre, as do Tony Rice, Mark O’Connor, Chris Thile, Jerry Douglas, Sarah Jarosz, Bela Fleck and numerous others. Grisman’s pioneering Dawg Music led the way into a rich and fascinating cross pollination of acoustic genres that is ongoing. This new frontier attracts many gifted young players. I suspect many Boomers who complain about the supposed lack of high quality music at present are totally ignorant of this segment of music. Such a shame!

Jupiter protect the solar system of jazz music... After Armstrong  Sun birth , i think the most influential trumpet was Miles  second only in influence by his creative size  to Armstrong the sun ...No other trumpeter can be or had been  bigger than these two by their archetypal influence ...

It is just  subjective metaphors not something i felt to justify in debating.. You get it or you dont... 

 Chet Baker is the moon for me because his most of the times introvert playing is completely complementary in energy to extrovert Armstrong, and the two luminaries sing as they play in the same way, which is unique among trumpeters...

I spoke also about trumpeters if you remind  not of other instrumentists when i use these planetary metaphors to describe my subjective impression of trumpeters in Jazz.....

I will not try be more "scientifically astute" and you dont need too  ...Sorry.. I am not a musician...You are... Then the metaphors spoke to you or not, they are only the means to convey a subjective impression (mine) ...

 I like the trumpet as much as the piano in jazz... This is why speaking of trumpeters in jazz i thought about these metaphors evident for me about these 3 giants......... 

I can see how the dazzling, uplifting Armstrong would be the progenitor solar body and the nocturnal, melancholic Baker, the moon, but I’m not sure about Miles as Jupiter. Perhaps because Miles went through so many stylistic shifts,

@mahgister 

It is just  subjective metaphors not something i felt to justify in debating.. You get it or you dont... 

FYI, I wasn’t challenging you. Just wanting to understand more clearly where you were coming from, which you did address when you said:

Chet Baker is the moon for me because his most of the times introvert playing is completely complementary in energy to extrovert Armstrong...

This makes sense. Thanks. 

@stuartk,

I forgot to mention, and you probably already know this, that Ken Burns also did a series on country music which I enjoyed. I believe that all music influences all other music. Musicians are people and listen to the world of music.

I pretty much listened to classical music until I went to college and then the "crowd" pulled me into other kinds of music. We were going to bars and the Fillmore and dancing, and you can't do that to classical music.

A woman at a party I went to last night mentioned Alban Berg, so I'm now listening to him because he's a classical composer I don't know much about.

You are right about Baby Boomers, but I think it's true of all groups. They stop learning about music after they settle into adulthood. I am constantly trying to find new things but it's difficult to adjust one's musical understanding.

My friend who goes to jazz concerts with me loves Billy Strings. I've tried him but wasn't drawn back. You seem to know a lot about bluegrass. A lot more than I do. I've just kind of picked a few cherries off the bush.