Record Cleaning Using Vacuum Machine for Cleaning and Ultrasonic for Final Rinse


Readers unfamiliar should reference Precision Aqueous Cleaning of : Vinyl Records by Neil Anton, 3rd Edition, March 2024 available for free on line.  It will provide specific details that I will reference in passing here for brevity.  Specifically, look at Chapter III - Solution Preparation; Chapter VIII - Vacuum Cleaning Machines; and Chapter IX - Ultrasonic Cleaning Machines.  

Summary of Methodology (for very dirty records):1. Preclean 2. Pre-Wash 3. Rinse 4. Vacuum (partial) 5. Tergitol clean 6. Vacuum (partial) 7. Ultrsonic Final Rinse (2minutes) 8. Final Vacuum Dry  

Summary of Methodology (for new to v.good records): 1.Tergitol clean 2. Vacuum (partial) 3. Ultrasonic Final Rinse (2minutes) 4. Final Vacuum Dry                        

Materials Used:  Distilled Water obtained for local grocery store, Tergitol 15-S-9 (0,5ml/L); Liquinox (5ml/L).

Machines:  VPI MW-1 Cyclone; HumminGuru Nova

Brushes:  Osage, VPI, Record Doctor

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@richardbrand,

Thanks for the compliment, but not exactly a labor of love.  I started that project during COVID when I was retired (not anymore), and it kept me occupied and my skill sets sharpened.  And thanks to meeting up with Bill Hart @whart he stepped in with many good suggestions and as Publisher allowing the book be offered free through his site.  

Otherwise, I am not horrified by your use of Brita filter to deionize your good tap water.  First, the book makes not specific recommendation of distilled water.  The acronym DIW means demineralized/deionized/distilled water.  It just so happens that distilled water is plentiful and cheap in the US, while in the EU/UK demineralized/deionized is plentiful and cheap.  Neither provides any benefit over the other for record cleaning.  Second, the book offers a similar suggestion in Chapter VII.4.2 There are a number of vendors manufacturing countertop pitcher/filter systems that can produce Purified water. The ZeroWater™ units Water Filters & Water Filter Pitchers - Clean Water at Home | Culligan ZeroWater have the benefit of containing the most amount of demineralizer resin. Amazon.au sells ZeroWater Official Replacement Filter - 5-Stage Filter Replacement 0 TDS for Improved Tap Water Taste - System NSF Certified to Reduce Lead, Chromium, and PFOA/PFOS, 3-Pack : Amazon.com.au: Sports, Fitness & Outdoors but not cheap.  

Otherwise, assuming you bought a 6L UT tank reducing the number of records to no more than three and space them out about 25-cm and slowing the rotation speed to about 1.5-2-rpm should provide you with a cleaner record.  Most of the Chinese unit spinners are 24VDC and you can easily purchase a variable power supply to slow the rotation such as SHNITPWR 3V ~ 24V 3A 72W Power Supply Adjustable DC 3V 5V 6V 9V 12V 15V 16V 18V 19V 20V 24V Variable Universal AC/DC Adapter 100V-240V AC to DC Converter with 14 Tips 5.5x2.5mm 4.0x1.7mm 3.5x1.35mm : Amazon.com.au: Electronic.

Take care,

Neil

Richard, You wrote, "I just let the records air dry vertically in a rack after wetting in the Ilfoton bath."  Many of us have found that a rinse in pure water (as defined by you, Antinn, etc) after exposure to a detergent like Ilfoton, is beneficial.  You don't want to let the LPs dry with detergent on their surfaces, or at least they will sound better if you don't. I've done the experiment, with vs without a pure water rinse (in my case deionized, distilled water from my lab at NIH, where the building supplied distilled water that ran into a huge deionizer at the main sink) made a big enough difference that I have never not done it since. Of couse, my RCM is a VPI HW17, not a US machine.

@lewm 

I gather NIH is the National Institute of Health?  I gathered you are a medical professional ... having an unlimited supply of pure water would certainly help with rinsing!

@antinn Thanks for the details.

With pure T density rho of 1 (close enough, easy math) 1g/mm3, 0.3 mg have volume of 0.0003 mm3 = 3 x 10e-4 mm3. Record surface ~ 0.3 m2 = 3 x10e5 mm2

3 x 10e-4 mm3 : 3 x 10e-5 mm2 = 1 x 10e-9 mm = 10e-12 m, which is subatomic. (Angstrom is 10e-10 m). So you have scattered molecules of T on the surface, not even a film. Thickness of impurity is that of the size of the molecule, ~ 1 nm.

As an upshot of this, rinsing with distilled water to get concentration of T down by factor 10–100x is a non-issue. It does not matter. At 100x higher concentration, "film" thickness is still in Angstrom order of magnitude, so still scattered molecules. 

Even if my calculations are not precise (record surface is 28 cm2 minus center label area guesstimated 20 cm2), our calculations give different result by factor of 10'000x, which is pretty significant, IMHO. My math skills are not that great, still don't know I passed calculus, but this looks pretty straightforward to me. 

I think the problem step is going from weight to thickness, which IMHO is not supported. Going from weight and density to volume, and volume/area to thickness is more direct. my 2c.

@oberoniaomnia,

The density (rho) of Tergitol is not 1, its specific gravity is essentially 1, so it's the same as freshwater which is 62.4-lbs/ft^3, convert to mg/cm^3 = 28,304,164-mg/28,316.85-cm^3 = ~1-g/cm^3 = 28,316,846-mg/ft^3.

How did you get only a surface area if 20-cm^2.  The record is 12"-D (113.1-in^2) minus the 4" D label area (12.6-in^2) = 100.5-in^2 = 648.4-cm^2.  Plus, you have to add the area of the grooves.    

1-micron (0.0001-cm) thickness across a 1-cm^2 surface = 0.0001-cm^3.  

1-micron (0.00000328-ft) thickness across a 1-ft^2 surface =0.00000328-ft^3.  

1-micron of surfactant with density of 1000-mg/cm^3 spread across 1-cm^2 surface = (1000-mg/cm^3 x 0.0001-cm^3) = 0.1-mg.  

1-micron of surfactant with density of 28,316,846-mg/ft^3 spread across 1-ft^2 = (28,316,846-mg/ft^3 x 0.00000328-ft^3) = 92.879-mg.  

So, my calculation is off by a factor of ~10.  In my book, I show 1-micron to be 10-mg/ft^2, when in fact is ~100-mg/ft^2.  So, 1-mg/ft^2 is not 0.1-micron but 0.01-micron.  Reviewing the NASA document I found my error.  They show 1-ug/cm^2 (1-mg/0.1-m^2) for contaminant 1-g/cm^3 = 10-nanometers = 0.01-micron; and 1-mg/0.1-m^2 = 1-mg/ft^2.

Take care,

Neil