@donavabdear I’m completely fine with what you believe in. It makes no difference to me. My observation from many of your posts is that you don’t see the forest for the trees. You’re deep in the weeds without being able to expand your comprehension beyond the boundaries of the recording studio. There’s probably not a chance that this will ever change. No point evolving this conversation any further. Take care.
I see the issue with ABX blind testing
I’ve followed many of the cable discussions over the years with interest. I’ve never tested cables & compared the sound other than when I bought an LFD amp & the vendor said that it was best paired with the LFD power cord. That was $450 US and he offered to ship it to me to try & if I didn’t notice a difference I could send it back. I got it, tried it & sent it back. To me there was no difference at all.
Fast forward to today & I have a new system & the issue of cables arises again. I have Mogami cables made by Take Five Audio in Canada. The speaker wire are Mogami 3104, XLRs are Mogami 2549 & the power cords are Powerline 10 with Furutech connectors. All cables are quite well made and I’ve been using them for about 5 years. The vendor that sold me the new equipment insisted that I needed "better" cables and sent along some Transparent Super speaker & XLR cables to try. If I like them I can pay for them.
In every discussion about cables the question is always asked, why don’t you do an ABX blind test? So I was figuring out how I’d do that. I know the reason few do it. It’s not easy to accomplish. I have no problem having a friend come over & swap cables without telling me what he’s done, whether he swapped any at all etc. But from what I can see the benefit, if there is one, will be most noticeable system wide. In other words, just switching one power cable the way I did before won’t be sufficient for you to tell a difference... again, assuming there is one. So I need my friend to swap power cables for my amp/preamp & streamer, XLR cables from my streamer to my preamp, preamp to amp & speakers cables. That takes a good 5-10 minutes. There is no way my brain is retaining what I previously heard and then comparing it to what I currently hear.
The alternative is to connect all of the new cables, listen for a week or so & then switch back & see if you feel you’re missing anything. But then your brain takes over & your biases will have as much impact as any potential change in sound quality.
So I’m stumped as to how to proceed.
A photo of my new setup. McIntosh MC462, C2700, Pure Fidelity Harmony TT, Lumin T3 & Sonus Faber Amati G5 & Gravis V speakers.
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Does not mean that our hearing is a poor tool waiting to be tricked... It only say that in natural environment we hear the sound from ONE source not from TWO speakers... Then this does not means that the ears/brain are easily tricked, it means that in a stereo ARTIFICIAL environment the ears /brain are tricked because they are designed by evolution to detect amazingly detailed information on many levels with accuracy which is unexplained by Fourier principle..... Using it as an example of a defective quality of our ears/brain is erroneous and misleading... |
@mahgister Sorry - it is not 'Pop-psychology' it is based on what has been learned from studying animals and humans. If you think that, sorry. |
I apologize to you because i was perhaps rude saying this...😁 I apologise sincerely ... But hearing is perhaps easy to trick in artificial condition but in natural one it is more reliable if not we would have less survival successes in tracking animals without being a prey ... And social decoding of language content, intonation , direction and conditions ask for a very refine tool not a tool easy to deceive ... i reacted to this common place and cliche about the fact that any senses cannot be trusted... ... Thats was my point among others in my posts ...
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Technology has been developing for almost two centuries now finding ways to fool our senses. We hear a human voice from a speaker- a diaphragm powered by an electromagnet that is nothing like vocal cords in an articulated throat. We watch movies that are not real motion. They are a stack of still images flashing at us. We internalize these false sounds and images to make them seem realistic- not real, realistic. Why do we see black on a white projection screen? Because our senses are comparative. Dim the room lights and project an image onto a white screen and the darkest areas appear as black to us while the brightest areas still appear as white. We have become so accustomed to technology that we rarely ever notice the difference between real and realistic. I’m looking at this screen and it looks like the page of a book but in reality it is flickering at 60 Hz, or 120 Hz in some cases. But it looks so realistic. |
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