Researching the CD/HDCD Players from China


I have gotten 40 plus responses regarding CD players built in China. However, the more research I've done It appears to me that most CD players and many other audio pieces are made in China or in Japan. I recall back in the early 1960's working as an audio salesman, we not only carried hi end audio equipment, but table radios and certain consoles. I would always steer customers away from anything made in Japan. That was my mindset back then and remained so for some years.

Now it appears that this is the same mindset of many audio buffs regarding anything made in China. Much of my restarch as been trying to find high quality CD players that are built well and can render classical choral and orchestral as well as jazz small and big bands well. In particular it must be able to give me a good presentation of the human voice in song. Plus it must be able to render an wide sound field throwing music outside of the speakers. And there must be sufficient height to the sound field as well. I am also particular about being able to pick out each jazz instrument and/or voice from within the sound field.

I have heard (for short periods)an Original 2008 Mk2, a Shenda SD100S, Doge 6, and a Bada HD23. All of these players produced a very pleasent sound. However, my primary concerned is with "LONGEVITY" and being able to improve on the sound with tube changes, upgrades, etc.

Finally, the reason I've spent time researching these and other CD/HDCD players has to do with funding. I don't have a large amount of $$$ to spend, but still want hi end sound. This may be a foolish notion, but that's what I am looking for. I understand that there are some HDCD CD's now on the market. Has anyone heard any and is the sound quality superior to the redbook CD's? By the way, the rest of my system will consist of the following:
1. Elite Rock turntable with Excalibur arm (Sumiko cart)
2. Audio Research Pre-Amp
3. Threshold S/300 power amp
4. Mirage OM-9 Omni (soon to be upgraded to Mags 1.6)
5. Various Kimber Cables
I have many classical and jazz LP's i've collected over the years especially many from Germany. I may have just as many redbook CD's. I plan to purchase HDCD's if they can present better sound than my redbooks.

Again thank you for your comments because I really need them. I hope to purchase something within the next few weeks depending on what I get in the way of your responses.
rbwinterlink
HDCD is just great - it's also effectively obsolete in terms of new recordings being made.Where it gets interesting is that since the format was truly backwards compatible ( for once) -there are quit a few out there to this day. Some artists/engineers really got behind it and their work will play just fine on a regular redbook CD player - plus really shine thru a player or converter that can recognize and process the HDCD process.
I also have a strong suspicion that part of the reason i really like so many HDCD encoded recordings is simply because the original "master" recordings were done by people who both cared about the sound of the final product and had the chops to get this done right - probably more important than the HDCD process it's self.
FWIW - as a former service manager - I would not expect to be able to repair any mechanism over the long run ( Chinese or not). Personally prefer to send my music out of relatively cheap players into a very good outboard DAC - that way when the player goes down - I feel no qualms about piching it.
"Personally prefer to send my music out of relatively cheap players into a very good outboard DAC - that way when the player goes down - I feel no qualms about pitching it."

That's exactly how I feel. Also DVD players have good tracking.

If you buy thru-hole hand made tube gear than I would be carefull with China but if it's, for instance, CD player than I would not be afraid. SMT boards inside would be made in China (or India) anyway and the SMT process is very well controlled. Rest of it is just put together and if there are any mistakes (inferior quality control) it will most likely show during warranty period. It also depends on individual brands and policies. Japanese gear is considered very reliable (just look at the Nikon, Canon etc) but Boeing had serious quality/attitude problems when they started making parts there.

"Where it gets interesting is that since the format was truly backwards compatible ( for once) -there are quit a few out there to this day."

I'm not sure about that. It uses 16 bit resolution with 15 bits carrying sound and least significant bit switching dynamic range (technique known as in band signaling). Playing it on regular CD player should bring noise on bit #16 and weird dynamics.
Yes there's a great HDCD machine made in Iowa by EAD which features the well known Pioneer stable platter drive mechanism. Enlightened Audio Design

Rb watch for my email...tomorrow...
Hi,
I have had various players from China and have had zero problems.The one I have now also does HDCD and sounds very nice.
Good luck in your quest.

Bob