DeVore Orangutan 96 an upgrade over DeVore 9?

The reviews I've read of the O/96 do not mention sluggish bass, but room placement does seem critical for getting the bass right. I love my 9s, the bass is tight and also has impact. I'm looking to increase the sense of scale and get some more bass extension.

Ladok, Your right, it seems I may be the only person that has noticed this all though as you mention, the reviews do note having to dial in the bass. Hope you can give them a listen before pulling the trigger. You'll get a larger scale with these verse the Nines. I was struck by how rich and visceral the 96's sound. They make my E's sound polite by comparison but I just was not totally feeling their groove on the times I heard them. I've not heard that issue with the Nines or the E's.

Thanks Jetrexpro, doubt if I'd have an opportunity to hear them. Certainly don't want a speaker that doesn't have a "groove." What are your speakers (E's)?

Ladok, Audio Note AN-E. You can see them in my system pg. I hope some other members might jump in here to dispute my findings. I have actually been very hesitant to publish my findings since most reviewers rave about them...best of luck with your search.

I own O 96's and Shindo amps (Monbrison and Haut Brion) and would definitely say they groove. Wonderful combination with shindo. The bass can be tuned with positioning but its different to the bass on the gibbons. The bass isn't tight yet I wouldn't call it loose. Its weighty and has character and color to it. I love the bass on them.