High current power cables


Hello,

How come some manufacturers offer high current power cables for use with amplifiers and some don't? Is this to say that the companies who don't offer one have designed their power cables to work in any application? 

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@deludedaudiophile - actually my Helix DIY Cables perform extremely well and has been prefered by many people to some of the best commercial cables available, so they will not be going to the car just yet - but thanks for the tip

Just for your further edification - the Helix coil is attached to the neutral, so there is no impact to sonic performance.

  • However, if Helix coil is connected to the Live side by accident - then you will hear anomolies

Here is some light reading pertaining to cable design - it’s a worthwhile read

https://www.psaudio.com/article/cables-time-is-of-the-essence-part-1/
https://www.psaudio.com/article/cables-time-is-of-the-essence-part-2/
https://www.psaudio.com/article/cables-time-is-of-the-essence-part-3/

Also - here is a link to a table showing the current carrying capacities of solid vs. several different stranded wire options.

Regards - Steve

Just for your further edification - the Helix coil is attached to the neutral, so there is no impact to sonic performance.

That does not make any sense. From a circuit standpoint, live/neutral, whether you place in the live or neutral makes no difference. There is still an inductor in the circuit loop delivering current.

Reading what other technical cable vendors have written, it is best to keep ground and neutral at the same potential.

Also - here is a link to a table showing the current carrying capacities of solid vs. several different stranded wire options.

I had to consult with an EE but this took about 5 minutes to "debunk", or at least clarify. Here is the key point that you appear to have missed:

The table below indicates the current ratings of PVC-insulated single and multicore wiring cables.

That derating had nothing to do with stranding. It has to do with individual insulated wires being used in a cable, not single wires. It would apply to two solid insulated wires or two solid stranded wires equally. Basically your whole premise is founded on incorrect interpretation of a chart. Here is a link he sent w.r.t. the electrical code which mimics your chart approximately. He expect those numbers you linked are from an old electrical code.

 

Update. He found this in the 1999 electrical code. EE’s are rather useful. They like solving problems :-)  You will notice the 6, 24, 42 from the chart you linked.

Here is some light reading pertaining to cable design - it’s a worthwhile read

https://www.psaudio.com/article/cables-time-is-of-the-essence-part-1/
https://www.psaudio.com/article/cables-time-is-of-the-essence-part-2/
https://www.psaudio.com/article/cables-time-is-of-the-essence-part-3/

 

Light is not the word I was thinking of. I have a term for this, a twist on an old standby. It is highly applicable to audio it seems, but happens often with academic types. I call it,

"Baffle them with brilliance."

When you can't put forth a clear and concise argument directly relatable to the topic in discussion to advance your argument, your start throwing out all kinds of technical terms, equations, etc. that sound really impressive, and on the surface seem important. It is often effective on the spot, because refuting it takes time to digest what is being said, but once you do, you realize that nothing about what they said was relevant.  That appears to be the case in what I quickly skimmed in the linked articles. It sounds really brilliant, and it would baffle most audiophiles who would think "this guy really knows his stuff". Perhaps he does. However, in the context of our hobby, it is worthless information meant to advance a sale, while not actually providing any relevant basis for even being in the discussion. Case in point, it worked on you.