K-horn won't fit, any other corner speakers recommended for a big room?
I am dealing with two very small corners in a fairly large room that I want to fill with a very open and transparent sound. I currently have a set of VonSchweikert VR3's in the corners and they sound great on the bottom end, but are lacking the resolve that I am looking for on the top end. I would like something that is a little less laid back. As mentioned in the title, I would love to put in a set of Klipschorns but there is a window at each corner that will not allow a K-horn to fit without covering the window. This is a fairly big room (22 x 30 x9) with three walls of windows and large opening at the back of the room that goes to the kitchen. Due to WAF, the two corners on the 22' wall are the only locations that are acceptable and yes, my VR3's are about 20' apart. My listening zone is at about 24-25' away so it works out ok but soundstage and imaging does suffer because of this. My thoughts are that speakers that are meant to load off the corners of the room and aim towards the center (K-horn) is the correct path for me. In a perfect world, I would be able to enjoy them at 12' away as well as 24' away. Currently, my setup actually sounds better at 24'. Does anyone have suggestions for speakers that are meant to go into a corner or very close to corners? Ideally, I'd love to get a pair of Maggies because I have always loved them when set up correctly, but I don't know how I could make them work well within my constraints. One last comment, I still have small kids at home so the wife needs to stay in case that was Option 1. Anyone ever had this problem to deal with and did you ever solve it?
@rooze I'm with you on the dipole. I think that any dipoles will require too much space behind and beside them for me to seriously consider trying them out. Although I do believe that you don't know until you try. I have been looking at Ohm for quite some time and I do believe that the Walsh 5000 could be an excellent attempt to make it work. I may have to take advantage of the very generous at home trial period that Ohm offers to see if these would work. At full retail pricing, I'd have to start selling off a lot of equipment that I may not be ready to part with just yet. I have been speaking with John Huff of Huff Loudspeakers about some of his Omni's that he has leftover from his days in the industry. He seems to feel confident that his Huff Three would do well in a corner such as mine and is willing to make a deal. There is much debate about omni's out there and the lovers and haters both make great points. With my limited knowledge, I think that dipoles would be tough for me to pull off and omni's could be even harder to get right. Any thoughts on omni's for a very wide separation and corner placement in a big room?
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Although the newest Khorn has a fully enclosed bass horn, it allows the Khorn to be out " a bit " from the corner, and you can adjust the toe in to the listening seat. However, they still use the corners to get the optimum balance out of them. Do not be fooled by this. They are still, imo, considered a corner horn. Ohm and Klipsch are like apples and oranges. They are not similar in their presentations at all. I have always had a dedicated listening room, and the WAF was never an issue this way, so I apologize for your situation. You either like horns, or not. I am a horn guy, and Ohms, although very " spacious " sounding, do not do what a Khorn will do ( and vis a versa ). There is no argument with this. It is all about what you want as a listener. And, MLs do not benefit in a corner. Good luck. Always, MrD. |
@kren0006 The Lascala ( and the no longer available Belle ) can fit in a corner, but in all of my years experience with them, corner placement causes mudiness, boominess, creates overhang in the bass output and timing, and, the dog house ( Klipsch lingo for the bass horn ) loses the coherence between the bass and midrange / treble. I find them very coherent and well balanced. They sound good against the wall behind them ( being 24 inches deep, with some rear wall treatment ), but not near a corner. I know quite a few folks who use them in corners, and I tell each one of them to get Khorns. I enjoy my LSs, but if I currently had workable corners ( I did at 1 time and owned earlier Khorns ), I would have Khorns. As you may know, I admired PWK, and still do ( RIP ). |
