Elrog 300b vs we300b


I am looking for an upgrade to my elekit tu8600s. Currently have cossor black plates. I use the amp for my hd800s and zmf atticus. I am looking for more transparency, dynamics and a bigger stage. I am interested in a richer tone too so not sure which direction to go. Any thoughts?

smodtactical

Thanks to everyone.

@puffball08 Right now I am using RCA clear tops as 12au7s and nos mullard from black burn facility as 12ax7. I have some other tubes too and have been rolling and listening for what I like best.

My amp has lundahl opt, vcap odams, tkd pot. Don't think there is any modded rectifiers.

@sns  Do you find that even reliable budget 300b tubes (gold lions, linlai black plates) sound as good as 'premium'/more expensive 300b tubes? WE, Elrog, TAK, ELS etc?

@sns Do you find that even reliable budget 300b tubes (gold lions, linlai black plates) sound as good as ’premium’/more expensive 300b tubes? WE, Elrog, TAK, ELS etc?

I can’t speak for @sns but based on my listening experiences the answer is no. You can achieve pretty good and certainly what I’d consider solid or respectable sound quality.

As discussed above in this thread, the premium tier of 300b tubes are plain and simple better built and unquestionably better sounding. I would also point out that with certain brands you will get longer tube lifespan.

Charles

@smodtactical 

Don't think there is any modded rectifiers.

If you're handy with a soldering iron and feel confident about bending and forming leads on a TO-220-2LD package, have a look at these.

https://www.onsemi.com/pdf/datasheet/ffsp05120a-d.pdf

@smodtactical  I can't speak specifically to tubes you mentioned, but the Shuguang Black Treasure's running previously, and generally considered best of the low priced 300B weren't really in same ballpark as Acme.

 

I expected a modicum of improvement with Acme, not prepared for the massive improvement heard within five minutes of first listen to Acme, much greater resolving power most obvious change. Very disappointed I had delayed Acme purchase based on inability to choose which 300B to go with. I expect I'd be feeling exactly the same with purchase of any of the high end tubes.

@sns that is awesome and makes me excited for my elrogs! A member of our discord sonic visions actually compared them and found he preferred the elrogs.