Seeing sounds and music.....


Seeing music and sounds ...

Listening music and sound organized waves in your room may be translated in perceived geometrical and topological, fractal flowing of animated forms embodied in each microdynamic flowing note....In attentive focus but relax listening...Like a psycho- acoustical imaginary geometry....Like a " cartoon story" in your head....

Music here is no more only melody, rythm, harmonies, but also a potential "story" displayed in visible forms...It is the interface emerging/vanishing imaginary world between a sound and a musical note...

Synesthesia between sound and colors exist but also synesthesia could be between sound and forms...This specific synesthesia is probably more common and could be a great help in fine tuning a room with our ears....

Each series of notes is an history and a " being" with an expressive figure flowing, walking or swimming or flying in pure POTENTIAL meaning...

Pure POTENTIAL meaning being the dynamical interconnectedness of all the musical notes and the forms phenomena appearing to our eyes with it....

The sound not only convey POTENTIAL meaning though, but reflect also the way this meaning is communicated by pure acoustical 3-d incarnations of each sound reflecting itself the acoustical properties of your Speakers/room/ears...

POTENTIAL Meaning experienced is then perceived in a specific acoustical PERSPECTIVE and takes, related to your room geometry, topology, acoustical content, in furnitures and material treatment surfaces, but also experienced in the limits and the controlled way your system/speakers are WED to a room specifically designed for them by possible Helmholtz controls devices in my case or other possible acoustic devices....

Sound could be "seen" and must not be a surface ever, always a 3-d individualized body in space...It is the goal....

Anyway no sound comes from the speakers, save in a bad room... Sound is an expanding and rythmic sphere of living dynamic whose 2 centers are the speakers at one focus and yourself at the other focus....The 2 foci are interpenetrated rythmic beating hearts.... Because what belong to the specific characteristics of your speakers/system and what belong to your ears are coupled together.... This is my experience....

In this breathing ellipse, there, float like mobile islands on a sea, many pressures zones expressing and surging themselves in the encounter between speakers and ears/ room content and form....


This is my experience listening and seeing music....

How others perceive sound and music experience ?

This is why it is important to control in a relative way the acoustic of the room because the POTENTIAL meaning of the sound and music wedding, are often only a surface, or a distorted fraction of the potential acoustic perceived sphere in non controlled and non treated room INSTEAD of being a 3-D BEING....

Acoustic is the sleeping princess and all the pieces of gear are the 7 working dwarves... Be the prince and awake the princess...

I begin this thread for helping people to "IMAGINE" what could be musical/acoustic "ectasy" or "seeing"....




We always listen WITH our system THROUGH the controlled room/speakers the "recreated acoustic translation" of a past lived event which becme an ACTUAL different acoustical event ...


Most people think the opposite:

They think they listen WITH their uncontrolled room/speakers ,THROUGH their system the electronical "reproduction" of a lived PAST event....

Anyway there is no PERFECT FIDELITY between a lived event and a recorded one....The other complementary act of FIDELITY is in the way your speakers/room will translate and recreated some or all the choices which had taken place at the moment of the recorded event.... The recording information which is a surgical 2-d surface extract of the 3-d lived original lived event and the translation and recreation of it in your room in a 3-d Spheroid, is greatly determined by the relation between speakers/ears/room.... On par and sometimes more than by the choice of the gear itself...

Ok i am not a scientist at all....All my post is only " subjective impressions in me" linked to my material acoustical experiments journey...

I try to conveyed here my experience of the last 2 years in words....

You can speak to me about your experience and what you think...

Those whose brain cannot fathom " meaning" and are ideologically deaf could remain silent....


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Synesthesia. Scriabin was into it, big time

 

 

Yes and people dont recognized generally their own synesthesia...

All of our senses intersect at their roots and separate at some level but encounter each other anew at the level of the canopy...

LIstening music and seeing music make ourselves very conscious of that....

Anyway any word is a dead metaphor coming into being from an old crystallized synesthesia...

Music is at the origin of language, music as body language gesture and a motivated meaning in ONE, and not only as a separate sound related externally by scripture code to a "separated" meaning , then even before "language" separately exist in the actual written sense of the word, "language" was a synchronized action......A collective music even without sounds ...

 

Scriabin wanted to save humanity through a ceremony where we may all ground ourself anew in our body and in the cosmos alike in only one creative gesture orchestrated by him ...It was a truly great artist, a Christlike figure and a Faustian magus at the same time...A cross between Christ and Simon the magus...

In Russia no pianist is ever worth the name if he cannot play Scirabin in this right miraculously redemptive way...Like in Poland Chopin or in Hungary Liszt....Bach for the German and Mozart or Beethoven ...

I attended a performance of Prometheus in Hill Auditorium (Ann Arbor) with full light effects.  It was groovy.

I attended a performance of Prometheus in Hill Auditorium (Ann Arbor) with full light effects.  It was groovy.

 

 

I am envious here... lucky you are....😊

 

I dont come here to speak only about audio only , my system is finished and i dont need to upgrade anyway, i come to speak with friends and to speak about the music i listen to...

I also tried to create this thread about "seeing sound and music" which would be my thinking about acoustic in the philosophical sense, not tweaks about audio so much, but ideas and perceptions linked to sound and music vision...About acoustic feelings and acoustic perception...

 

I discovered why i was a bad musician , i lived all my life more used to perceive rythm and harmony than melody, with not much melodical memory but an increase power to perceive forms and dynamical shapes linked to block of chords more than to melodical line... My attention to music is related to spatialization by timing of some chords which appear isolated in my attention window like a geometrical form moving, a surface speaking to me like a human face...This explain why while many listened to beatles in 1964 i was myself immersed in ancient choral music to perceive these moving forms and speaking faces...

That explain my difficulty to sing correctly...No musical "ears"...No melody memory so much but a way to make sound visible to my internal "eye"...Probably it is the reason i dreamed to own a high end audio system for all my life...I succeed only very recently with no money invested...

My goal now is to create a philosophical adventure on this acoustical road and reformulate all philosophical history through multiple "tags" which punctuated our notion of what a sound and what a musical sound means in the last 2 millenia...and why?

Each tag would be also a revelation of the conscious soul history through the way evolve his sound attention and perception....

 

Sound is feeling and meaning in one.....

Meaning is too vast notion to be only a sign, the new philosophy is related to the POLARITY of meaning and sign...Meaning generate sign and die in sign...

The new phisosophy will be a Goethean semiotic not a Peircean one...

Peirce war ferociously  against nominalism all his life without knowing that his conception reducing meaning to sign was an ultimate  nominalist residual attempt and stance ...Goethe semiotic by contrast is non nominalist...

Because the morphogenesis of sound event is related to a perceived polarity and a genetical insecable polarity which resonate with our internal polarities ...Object and subject BECOME and DIE together... the environment is part of your body and your body part of the environment... There is no way to STAY external observer....

Friston called these polarities "Markov maps" using the theory of a great Russian mathematician...

Karl Friston is my new mentor toward a complete new revolution in science...

 

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