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Get a load of this Deceptive add for a Gryphon Amp here on AG

So the title is  Gryphon Essence Stereo Power Amplifier Pure Class A 5 Months Old.

You can read the description for yourself.


I make an offer on the amp. Below is the reply I get from the Seller. Maybe its just me but this kind of selling should be BANNED on AG.  Selling Grey Market gear without putting any of it in the description. Total BS...and he isn't even the owner of the amp.  He's in California but says he's selling for somebody else in Massachusetts.



Thank you for your offer that I can accept.
I have some things to explain:
It's imported, from out-of -US distributor.
Gryphon designed it voltage interchangeable, manufactured 220-240V, then set up by distributor's technician to US 120V so you can just plug ( the power cord ) and play.
Gryphon's warranty is not transferable, made very clear in user's manual Page 25. But don't worry. Whenever in need of service, just send to LA and I will take all things ensuing.
If these are fine with you please let me know then I will accept to proceed.
Will ship to you from Massachusetts by the current ( the only ) owner.


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parker65310
211 posts
 
Is the paragraph you posted of that “sellers” response verbatim? If so, their use of their English language screams non-native English speaker. Could be a scammer not even in the United States. Not a chance in hell I would even consider sending them money. There is absolutely no way a legit seller would be selling an item that not only isn’t in their possession, but is literally on the opposite side of the country. Sounds like a potential setup where the assumed wait to arrange/receive the amp from the person supposedly in possession of the amp will buy them time to be long gone with your money before you’re certain you got screwed. Regardless if I’m off, it’s an extremely shady setup.
If you can’t help yourself, we least ask for the SN of the amp and see if they respond. If they do I would have the manufacturer verify it, if possible, it’s a valid SN and if it was sold overseas originally. 
parker65310
211 posts
 
I found the add. It doesn’t read as badly as expected. $350 shipping is, putting it lightly, excessive though. I’m having a really hard time understanding how a dealer would be comfortable selling an amp they haven’t inspected or have in their possession. Very, very odd. Ask for their shop name, address, their name, phone number, etc. They should have no problem sharing this information so you can investigate further.
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jond
5,706 posts
 
Ok I just finally looked at the ad a few things:
The seller speakerchuang has been here forever and has great feedback and is a verified dealer.


The ad states that his customer is in Mass and bought the amp from him.

It also states the amp was 240v converted to 120v.

So I don't see where nothing was disclosed that the OP is referencing?
audiogoing64
5 posts
 
It’s a little lacking in upfront transparency, probably to attract offers, but he DID tell you about the “issues”. He does have high positive feedback, so I’d let this one go as “just not interested” and move on instead of trying to create havoc from a vetted seller.
perkri
898 posts
 
Whats the issue?

The seller has been on AGon since 2013, has a 100% positive rating and regularly sells high end product. If you were concerned, you should ask admin to verify his ratings.

I fail to see the point of trying to create problems or raise unsubstantiated doubts about their integrity by posting this publicly...


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