What do we hear when we change the direction of a wire?

eagleeye7
Try it, if You find no directional difference, or that difference is masked by the items you mention, then IMHO, one would not be able to hear directionality in that particular Cable under test with the meter based evaluation.

I can’t try it right now, have no appropriate tuner.

Anyway I do not argue with the efficacy of your method, it certainly deserves attention. I only noticed that it is impossible to locate the exact reason of the directivity with its help. We can’t directly hear the RF signals, and even if we could, speakers can’t play them back. So we need to look for the real reason not in the RF area, that’s what I meant.

But may be we can somehow feel the RF right from the wires and other parts? Probably.. But here we are already going beyond conventional science.

All of of you need to spend some time on a psych ward just to see some brains that are really not working right. This is neuro-psychiatry leading you all around by the nose. I have said this 100 time and I will say it another 1000 if I have to. You can not depend on what you and other people hear for these type of analyses. There are hundreds of psychiatric variables you can not control this way. In order to indicate anything these types of tests have to be controlled if they are not they mean babkas.
Directional wires are audiophile stupidity of the highest order. Show me one controlled trial with an adequate number of participants that shows otherwise. The same nonsense permeates the "tweak" world.  
The .3 dB limit of human hearing is right on. I spend hours adjusting frequency response in 0.1 dB steps and in direct comparison 0.3 dB is the limit of my hearing's ability to detect changes and this is switching back and forth between different curves. 
If you really want to improve the performance of your system and learn what you are doing in the process get one of these and get down with it.
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There are hundreds of psychiatric variables you can not control this way. In order to indicate anything these types of tests have to be controlled if they are not they mean babkas.

Pretty certain a babka is a chocolate pastry.

@thecarpathian

Thanks for the laugh! Then again, you say bubkas, I say bupkis...

All of of you need to spend some time on a psych ward just to see some brains that are really not working right. This is neuro-psychiatry leading you all around by the nose.

Coming and insulting people in their communicating thread with NO REASON save our own prejudices and ignorance is something...

Are you the same arrogant man at work?

You can not depend on what you and other people hear for these type of analyses. There are hundreds of psychiatric variables you can not control this way. In order to indicate anything these types of tests have to be controlled if they are not they mean babkas.

Nobody sells nothing here you are in the wrong thread...We dont sell "tweaks"...
And the experiments described are controlled by the ears pertaining to those with Anton who had LEARNED how to perceive and described it with the right directed wired tubes amplifiers...






An " horse with blinders" calling others by words like "delusion" like in psychiatric vocabulary, using wrong premise and false attribution in the second step of a simple logical deduction is not a good adviser:

--All audible perception are measured ONLY in Db
(which is false for example in the case of  the timbre perception evaluation where other factors are at play)

-- The effects of a changing of the direction in the wire is an " electro magnetic" process change, indiscernible, because measured in micro Db out of the range of human hearing...
( which is an assumption falsely attributed to Anton who says he has excluded this physical known E.M. change in the wire already for explanation from the beginning of his thread )

-- THEN all wiring direction experiments are false...
(the conclusion is blatently a sophism)

If you really want to improve the performance of your system and learn what you are doing in the process get one of these and get down with it.
https://www.parts-express.com/Dayton-Audio-OmniMic-V2-Acoustic-Measurement-System-390-792

Finally your perpetual advise to use an electronical equalizer for the speakers response WITHOUT being conscious of the LIMITATIONS of this type of equalization, versus for example the mechanical equalization of the room response, and proposing arrogantly something that had no relation anyway with the issue discussed here, show himself not only his prejudices but at least his stubborn narrow way or at worst plain stupidity...Pick the convenient one...

The same nonsense permeates the "tweak" world.

Amalgamating this Anton experiment or any other experiment in audio to be only a "tweak" reveal a despise of all audiophiles which speak volume about you...

A question for you, which is a "tweak" here for example : a mechanical method to equalize a room inherited from Helmholtz and based on psychoacoustic laws you ignore or your consumerist proposition to buy a cheap or a costly electronical equalizer for tuning the speakers response instead, which could never be a complete solution to the acoustic room problem by itself, but only a helpful secondary tool at best ?

The question clearly stated contain the answer.... 😁


Then look at yourself in a mirror.... This thread is not a medical assembly of your future patients nor audiophiles waiting your paternalist "solution" or miraculous cure for all problem: an electronic equalizer ....

Discussing is being open first, listening, second, thinking, third and four being polite.... It is not necessary to be intelligent at each step but it is better to be before speaking....






«When someone propose an experiment, and if it is not the experience of jumping from the Niagara river, decency propose to keep an open mind; no advise is needed either if it is not related in any way to the proposed experiment itself but the reflection of our own prejudices»- Written in front of Groucho Marx audio room laboratory 🤓