Why no interest in reel to reel if you're looking for the ultimate sound?


Wondering why more people aren't into reel to reel if they're looking for the ultimate analog experience? I know title selection is limited and tapes are really expensive, but there are more good tapes available now than ever before.
People refer to a recording as having "master tape quality",  well you can actually hear that master tape sound through your own system and the point of entry to reel to reel is so much more affordable than getting into vinyl.  Thoughts? 
scar972
orpheus10, your ears tell you what you like, and I honestly believe no one really questions that. Where the tensions rise, is when audiophiles assume that because they "like" something, that it must be more accurate, or more like "live music" or what they think live music should sound like. They will go so far as to make up technical claims, about things they have almost no knowledge about, then defend those claims with passion and vitriol.

Tube vs. solid state amplifiers in an interesting paradigm. Very few audiophiles understand the complex relationship between amplifier transfer function with real speakers, how that impacts the performance of real speakers, what the overall result will be, the impacts of typically somewhat poor and rarely well tuned room acoustics on the overall system response, and then how equal loudness contours play into that overall system response at the typical levels most people will listen at.

When people tell me they have speaker X and they much prefer tube amplifiers, then say "SS amps are crappy, the measurements don’t mean anything", I just smile and nod. The difference between me and them is they don’t have any clue of the "why" of why they prefer tube amplifiers in their setup, hence they slag SS amps and measurements, while I have a pretty good idea of the "why", and hence don’t slag measurements, because I know the right measurement, i.e. a room response graph at their typical listening volume, coupled with system level, speakers included distortion measurements, perhaps with some system level, speakers included transient measurements (including decay) would show exactly why they prefer the tube amplifier. This is why Bob Carver was able to modify a somewhat low cost amplifier to be sonically indistinguishable from an expensive amplifier. He matched the transfer functions of the two amplifiers with the real speaker loads.
Most people don’t feel the need to broadcast their short attention spans nor their need to be coddled only with opinions or facts they like.
geoffkait22,562 posts06-10-2020 10:52am

I got as far as, “I honestly believe...”

My guess, off the top of my head, is that they found company.
I hope they never get educated.

geoffkait22,562 posts06-09-2020 6:33pm

My guess off the top of my head is you’re in luck. 🤗

It’s just that I don’t believe in reading a lot of pseudo intellectual, pseudo authoritative jibber jabber. I have other things to do, pal. Only 94 posts and you’re already stalking me and giving out free pseudo scientific advice like a regular. Not counting all the other names you had here before, of course. Mr. Roberttdid, Mr. Roberttcan, Mr. Atdavid, Mr. Whiner, whoever. Keep trolling, maybe eventually someone will buy into your brand of jibber jabber.