Just upgraded my Integrated Amp - now here a HUM out of my LUMIN - HELP


I run two systems in my home - System one is in my family room - my old Krell 400 xi died last month. I replaced it with the new Krell Integrated amp the K300i - Everything is better - soundstage is larger - highs are clearer with no harshness, bass is amazing, and midrange vocals are so real Carly Simon vocals bring me to tears! My problem is I now have a very low level pulsating hum between tracks that I cannot eliminated. I have isolated this hum to my LUMIN when i input its feed into the Krell. The low level hum follows the RCA jacks as I move them from inputs S1 to S2 to S3 on the Krell. My DVD / CD player on this system does not have this issue - it is stone silent between tracks. The only ‘odd thing’ about my LUMIN RCA inputs is they are long - 15 feet. I have my LUMIN upstairs feeding my second system via the balanced outputs. This system runs with my older Krell S550i integrated amp. The sound is stone quiet between tracks - no HUM.

i am running the Krell K300i at a volume output of 65 ( volume runs from 0 to 100). I then control my actual volume via my I pad mini via the LUMIN app. My sound is amazing , but this HUM just bothers me. Do I need to ground the LUMIN D1? Both systems get their power via two separate FURMAN ELITE 15 Power Conditioners. I am out of options. Any help would be appreciated
tom8999
Well first there’s at least 3 different kinds of hum. First is ground loop hum which is what I covered. And yes if that’s what you have then that is the way its eliminated, by plugging everything into the same outlet. It won’t just go down. It will go away.

Then there’s DC offset hum, which is a transformer physically vibrating. This one the speakers are silent, its the transformer itself. Because of the way transformers and electricity works its also a kind of electro magnet which is why they always make that very faint hum, which is normal. Unless you have DC offset on your line, then its like the electro magnet transformer is imbalanced and so instead of a faint hum from vibrating only a little its vibrating a lot. There’s cheap power strips that will eliminate DC offset hum. Which you don’t have.

But you might have interference hum, which can happen any time a wire goes near another signal or usually power carrying wire. If you run your cable anywhere near a power line the AC in the line induces a current in it and there’s your hum. Shielding actually helps with this one, unlike the other two. And unlike the other two it would go down in level but never completely go away. Which is what you have now.

Usually the odds-on favorite when using multiple outlets is ground loop hum. But there’s nothing in the rules says you can’t be lucky enough to have the other one- or both!

Grounding the Lumin may or may not help. That's the thing about ground. What I said will definitely work. One ground always works. Every situation. Every time. But sometimes other things work, sometimes even what's wrong works. (Like one amp is fine, next one hums, nothing else changed) The rules never change just the winners and losers, yet we keep playing the game.
If you are not using both sets of Balanced inputs, use one for the Lumin.

Use some twin screen wire like Canare L-4E6S Star Quad
Wire the RCA + and common the - and screen to the shell
Wire the XLR + to 2, - to 3 and leave pin 1 unconnected. Use heat shrink so the screen cannot short either 2 or 3


When you test, start with 300i volume at ZERO!
Thanks for the additional input - my hum is weird now - it is very faint but it rises and falls when I am not playing music out of the LUMIN, and I have to crank up the Krell and put my ear on the speaker to hear it. So I guess I have interference hum. I am rerouting my cables to get them away from the AC input cables behind all of my equipment. For me the ‘Tell’ here is that I have minimized the HUM over the last days by upgrading my original RCA interconnect to the Anticable 2.2. I just used an extension cord to move my AC input into my Furman to another outlet - trying to find another circuit.  I will let you know how this adventure works out. I guess my new Integrated Amp is ‘sensitive’. I am just glad I upgraded to the new RCA interconnect from Anticables - I am hearing ‘new detail’ in multiple albums via my LUMIN.

again thanks for the education!

A hum you’ve got? When I installed my LUMIN s1, I heard a Chinese radio station. (I’m in Canada, so it could have been a local station.) I contacted the Asian distributor, and they were totally perplexed. Meanwhile the radio signal got louder and louder, first through the right channel, then through the both. Got louder and louder.till it almost drowned out the music I was playing through my system. No fun at all. 
My amps are a pair of coincident technology monoblocks. Cables are all shielded.  Never happened to my system before, through all its 30 years of configurations. 
Solution I found was to add a passive  pre to my system.  Like, the one I kept stored  in the basement and hadn’t used in 15 years. Actually forgot I still had it. Specifically, it was a Placete RVC. Plugged that in  and shut off the volume control function on the LUMIN. And went back to using the placete for volume control. That solved everything, don’t know why, I’m not technically minded,but it did.
ieales - my LUMIN cannot come downstairs as my System 1 does not have Ethernet connection available in the family room. This is why the Lumin is upstairs - I have an Ethernet connection in the wall right behind the stereo system upstairs. Plus I am not an electrician and I do not want to short anything out.