looking for a tube preamps that doesn't sound like SS


any recommendations for a tube preamp under 4k, that has old school sound, warm, fat, with good mid range and sound-staging.

I have a good SS set up, good clarity and imaging but would like to change things up with a good tube,.

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I just sold my McIntosh SS C28 Preamp and SS MC2250 amp, went back to tubes.

I researched, and decided to get a McIntosh Tube FM Tuner/Preamp. They only made 6 preamp models with tuners, I chose the mx110z (3 versions, you want the last z version).

https://positive-feedback.com/Issue77/vintage_mcintosh_experience.htm

I couldn't be happier. I've been listening to tube/ss/tube for 50 years. Important to me, it includes (actually introduced) the McIntosh Mode Switch, which I use to refine my system's frequency distribution and balance. 

Not only a tuner and pre-amp for the price of one, also important to me, they fit in the space of one.

I have a dedicated FM Antenna in the attic, aimed at Jazz 88, and have a superb Carver SS Tuner, but this mx110z tuner sounds terrific.

"When operating to spec, the mx110 tuner section is superb". McIntosh engineer (way back then) Richard Modafferi (who originally designed the MR77 & MR78 tuners) (performs modifications on McIntosh tuners) said there is nothing he could do to improve upon the original design of the mx110 tuner section. It was (and still is) that good.


Oh yeah, the mx110z phono eq sounds great also. My tt has a built in phono preamp, switchable, so either go line out to any line input or signal out to a phono input for RIAA Phono EQ within the pre-amp.

I prefered the TT preamp Line Out to my SS C28 preamp phono eq. Now, I prefer the tube pre-amp's phono EQ, using signal out of tt to the mx110z.
I just skimmed that long story I posted the link to, words, words, words, his conclusion, if you are still awake:

"The MX110Z excels at playing music in an authoritative and vivid way that I found to be very emotionally engaging. It presented tempos, melodies, harmonies, and rhythms with natural life-like momentum & dynamics. The MX110Z's tonality is superb by any standard past or present, and it excels at the reproduction of the textures, colors, tones and overtones. The MX110Z makes vinyl & FM sound astonishingly good, and even makes digital your friend. Price-wise the MX110Z is a steal, and performance-wise it can easily hold its own against contemporary preamplifiers, and feature-wise it outclasses any modern preamplifier on Planet Earth. The MX110Z may be the single best audio purchase I've ever made, and I wouldn't be surprised to see it provide another 50 years of service after its checkup & electrical refreshment by Terry DeWick. Expect to pay around $3000 USD or more for an electrically restored 'Mint +' MX110Z like mine."

I got mine eBay, $1,700. and it sounds awesome with no modifications. I have my own tester, all tubes tested good. btw, most power tubes are rated for 10,000. hours, the small tubes in preamps and tuners substantially longer than that. So don't jump into new tubes too soon. 
I have read the 2002-2019 thread on the Supratek preamps and am very tempted to buy one.  I would read through the thread