Nuforce AVP-16

thanks for replying...but to say its not a krell killer..well its price point wasnt meant to be was it.   its interesting your take on it though..

that is what I came here for..even though you have the 18 and I am talking about the 16 which has the characteristics of the 8 which is a little pricey.

in the end I will have to hear it myself..

I also have the avp-18 in my ht rig and I found it a revelation compared to the Emotiva ss amps that I was using, yes I know they are low tier fodder but still.
For a claimed 150wpcx8 it blew away the 250wpc Emotivas on every level.
Voices were much more distinct, explosions and gunfire ( we are talking in a ht rig!) were vastly enhanced and much more defined. All round it was vast improvement.
Obviously on 2 channel music my main rig is much more musical but so it should be for cost difference. However that ebing said I quite often listen to Pandora on it and the occasional bluray audio disc through the oppo connected to it and it is more than acceptable.
For the price paid I was very happy indeed.

Uber Salz....
the NuForce AVP-18 is only an AV preamp/ processor ..... it is no multichannel receiver because it has no power amps included.... you need external power amps

https://www.soundandvision.com/content/nuforce-avp-18-surround-processor

https://www.optomausa.com/audioproduct/avp18

http://www.soundstagexperience.com/index.php/equipment-menu/523-nuforce-avp-18-surround-sound-proces...


I’m confused by your post "..... for a claimed 150wpc X 8 it blew away the 250 WPC EMOTiVAs on every level."""

The latter refers to a multi-channel ss power amp, not the "18" pre-amp / AV processor function....(apples and oranges). which amp?
Are you referring to the the multichannel NuForce MCA-20 multichannel power amp ?

the "16" the OP is referring to is the discontinued predecessor model to the "18".
http://www.hometheatersound.com/equipment/nuforce_avp16.htm

PS to all the readers :

(1) the NUFORCE AVP-18 is a legacy product itself already ....they are an indicated afterthought (IMO) after a sellout to optoma.com . the prior models don't even appear even in their support links.

-- no further software updates available etc. In fact no software downloads at all, even to restore it to factory default in case it gets pooched ..
https://www.optoma.com/ap-nuforce/product/avp-18/

-- the new product price has been greatly slashed from $1095 to $695 on AMAZON

https://www.amazon.com/NuForce-AVP-18-Preamp-Processor/dp/B00D3E576W/ref=sr_1_2?s=aht&ie=UTF8&am...

-- few distributors ....
https://www.optomausa.com/us/authorized-


- - their aftermarket support was / is very dodgy (I’m being polite) in my experience . Here’s a similar customer rant review on AMAZON

"..... Perfect.Pitch

1.0 out of 5 starsUnreliable - Terrible Support

October 17, 2016

Unit failed on me within two weeks of purchase in Australia, sent for repair under warranty but Optoma/Nuforce didn’t provide parts to Australian distributor - simply stopped all communication. I now have a dead AVP-18 that Nuforce refuse to do anything about. Appalling support...."

Again ..... caveat emptor....

Very simple typo
The avp 18 is the controller
Meant the mca20 for the power amp.
End of point

I purchased both at the same time and quite amusingly the software in the avp 18 was identical to the software in the old emotiva processor.
Imho it is extremely easy to use and powerful.
Sorry you had issues and poor support, touch wood mine has been exemplary in all aspects.