Kharma CRM3.2 FE vs Sonus Faber Amati Anniversario


Has anyone listened to both these speakers who could provide a comparison? I currently own Vandersteen 5's and am considering moving up (in aesthetics and cost, and I expect sound quality) to one of these $20K+ speakers. I am trying to find a beautiful looking and sounding speaker (WAF problems increasing with the 5's) that is no larger than the Vandys (preferably smaller) that will work well in a room with a listening position about 10 ft from the speakers. Amp is DNA-225 moded by SMc, speaker cable is 8m of OCOS. Music is classical, jazz, and diverse mix. Thanks in advance for suggestions.
bruce_1
Check out the Eggleston Andra IIs, they could be your cup of tea: great dynamics with deep bass, refined sound, transparent but never harsh, good looking (IMO) and not large as the Vandys.
My 2 cents: I have the Kharma 3.2s & IMHO they play classical, jazz (& all instrumental music) with a unique goodness that I have not heard anywhere else. What Jonathan here calls micro-dynamics is something not to be dismissed lightly. To expand on this, it is a kind of micro-soundstaging that can exhibit the position of individual keys on a piano or the waving of a trumpet while playing, or the distance of a voice from a microphone. All of this, coupled with, to my ears, the almost perfect tonality captured for each instrument, is amazing. Yep, other speakers may have more of a golden glow or more resolute bass, but the Kharma 3.2s just sound alive without being brash or pushy. They are really in a class by themselves for the things they do right. I actually think the bass is one of their best qualities, as it associates bass notes with the instrument producing it and never pumps or thumps annoyingly. It is a warm, friendly bass that is quite deep (35hz I am guessing.)
While not producing a huge soundstage, the space it creates sound like a true 3-D area, not an artificial version of it.
Caveats: A harshly recorded voice can sound buzzy. Also, mine took about a year to break in. But now, I could not part with them. The more I live with them, the better I like them. (My amp is an Edge NL12).
I toured the NY Home Entertainment show for the last few years and really like nothing better except possibly the $60K Von Scheikert VR9s (but I actually thought the 3.2s had a more integrated & friendly bass).
I agree with Rgs92's comments for the most part. Except, I would say that the 3.2s do produce a huge soundstage. In fact, the speakers' soundstaging capability is probably one of the things that is most immediately apparent.

Since you're concerned about aesthetics, you might want to know that the 3.2s are very friendly speakers to place. You can pretty much have it close to the rear wall without having the bass sound too boomy. Some have the speakers really close to the side walls with success as well.

I listen to instrumental jazz a lot and to me, the 3.2s' best attribute is its production of instrumental/tonal colors. The speakers sounds very flat, so it might not appear to be a "dynamic" speaker until you play a good recording. Only then, would you find the sound to be "explosive". Associated equipment and cables can make a big difference in my experience.

I listened to Sonus Faber (Guarneri, Cremona, and Amati at the time) extensively before purchasing the 3.2s (I also had aesthetics in mind). With the 3.2s, you really do get the whole "vivid digital picture" analogy, while Sonus Faber was more analog softer picture (different but no worse).

In terms of bass and dynamics, the 3.2s are fast and articulate, while the Sonus Faber's bass tends to be just a tad slower which tends to give it more oomph! Basically what I'm saying is that high pitch instruments can play very dynamically, but for some music, having the bass fundamental correct is the key.
Agree with Howie and if needed u can also look into adding Kharma's subwoofer if you want more bass....Avalons are not the most dynamic speakers and behind Kharmas in this regard though they are execellent in other areas. I have no exp w/ Von S. speakers but intrigued myself...though I agree WAF can be an issue w/ these...but you shouldn;t assume anything on WAF in my exp...sometimes what they think look good are not what you expected them to do so...for example my significant other thought Wilson Maxxs looked kool while the Kharmas too ordinary! So don't rep-judge, show them!
Yep, WAF or in my case GAF, can be an interesting ordeal (interesting if you can find some humor in it). I showed pictures of the various speakers to my gf prior to the purchase of my Kharmas. Wilson Sophias? They look like garbage cans. Sonus Faber? They look beautiful but not in my room. Changing your amps and other associated gear after you had bought those "approved" speakers can change the whole WAF out of harmony as well.