2+2+2 Multichannel

Almost everyone who cares about multichannel audio agrees on the point about the problems of 5.1. But there are just so few people with audio-only multichannel systems that its hard to make the case for profitability of non-HT compatible formats. The eventual answer would be hierarchically processed multichannel data which can be configured by your player/receiver to whatever speaker arrangement exists in your home, for HT as well as for audio. But this is still a research area and years away from being a reality or a recording standard.

The 2+2+2 ideas could work if the mains and rears were at the same angles as in 5.1; then the additional 2 could be switched in or out depending on the format of the recording.

I've never heard a properly set up Ambisonics system. Has anyone here? If so would you please describe your impressions? How might it compare to this?

It seems to me that above the fronts would likely be the best place for "height" channels. However, I am all bent out of shape about loosing the center channel, which I have always considered most important, even for stereo, where it is easily derived from ther 2-channel source.

I don't know why the center channel speaker gets such criticism in audiophile circles. Examination of the signal characteristics of stereo recordings will show that common-mode modulation dominates, and this is center material. In particular, solo performers are usually recorded equally in both channels, and isolate nicely in the center channel. I know that two good speakers will image the soloist between them, but this effect depends stronly on listener position, which is not the case where a center channel speaker is used. Other advantages are a wider soundstage because the left and right speakers can be further apart, and reduced speaker power for a given room sound volume level. Of course it goes with my philosophy that the center speaker and amplification should be as good or better than the left and right. Perhaps the minimalist center channel speakers that are commonly used for movie dialog may be responsible for the bad rap for music.

I have to agree on the center channel bad rap issue Eldartford, My system sounds much better with my center channel in the picture..I do understand that someone with a TV and small, poorly matched center channel stuck in the middle of things could come to this opinion. Keep us posted on your findings. I also have extra amps and speakers and may play around with this type of setup myself, winter will soon be in Michigan and audio will be moved to the front burner.

Dave

Eldartford, I read you on the advantage of having a centre channel. That this channel should use the same model speaker as the main l/r and same amplification makes sense to me. Have always been intrigued, however, on whether the ITU's recommendation that all five speakers be identical "full-range" and use identical amps is not first, premised on what the ITU considers to be "full-range" (I have never gotten an answer on that one, but think they see speakers used in the home as way smaller than what a lot of audiophiles use) and secondly, on some sound if rather impractical notion of uniformity. I am now thinking of putting together a multi-channel system as a second system using what I have on hand (Sony SCD XE 670, Yamaha MX-35 amp, four small Infinity speakers and two small Mission speakers) and getting low priced equipment to fill in those other spots (sub and centre channel) while things get sorted out in the marketplace.