Mcintosh-Bad customer service?


I was preparing to buy a new pair Mcintosh MC501's from an authorized Mac dealer. I have been doing some research and found some incriminating threads on Audio Asylum about Mcintosh. One very lengthy thread was about a seller on E-bay who was forced to pull his ad by a Mcintosh lawyer. Another was about a frustrated buyer who couldn't get support in Russia. There are always isolated instances, but I am very concerned now. One of my main concerns is that Mcintosh will not honor any warranties after you sell it. That means if I later try to sell my amps on audiogon, the buyer gets no warranty! What are your thoughts! I am used to unbelievable service from Pass labs, and even Krell. I refuse to spend that kind of money to a company that treats me poorly after the sale. Should I be concerned?
noonan
Most of the companies that are in high end do not honor or do "transfer" warranties to the new owner. The very few that used to do it, no longer do so. You have to look at the McIntosh case of not willing to honor a warranty for someone beyond the original purchasing honor as a fact in the industry. One cannot but wonder why companies that stopped going the extra length for their after sales support to be considered outstanding. When it comes to it, there might be a couple of reason behind this. For one, that a company cannot afford to upkeep their products to the full satisfaction of the warranty or the time of the warranty, because of economic considerations. All companies that are in high end are corporation or work like one. A corporation is driven for profits, and God save that corporation that has not bettered their last year's or last quarter profits, for they risk massive or excessive punishment of their stock shares. In this light, they cannot afford to fix items and send them back (at their expense) no longer....The best of the high end items are ridiculously overbuilt, making this shipping back costly and very open to damage (AKA: UPS or any handling service.) I guess even we are to blame for this, because most Americans look into profits and bottom line when it comes down to our portfolios or stocks...so, we pay the price. Now, another reasoning behind this is the abuse that a very generous warranty or for that matter return policy would attract...for example, have you heard the news of those customers that have been "blacklisted" from several stores because they are notorious for their manipulation and abuse of return policies?

In the other hand, I have heard of some people who did get outstanding service from Mcintosh, for things like having it fixed for free without the need to digging up ownership records etc....But it seems to me that that was something that no longer might hold true. I remember reading about this about 2-3 years ago on a webzine or site.

We live in a world where people feel a sense of entitlement that this "entitlement" often leads to abuse, which has the sad after effect of spoiling the priviledges of those that did not take advantage of it.
The guy from Russia managed to get McIntosh to solve his problem....
What happened in the other case has no bearing on how you will be treated if you buy your stuff at an authorized dealer....
I have bought an MR-85, MHT-100 and an MC-252 all from a McIntosh dealer, Satement Audio in Knoxville. Great service and all three pieces have perfpormed flawlessly. If something were to happen, I need only schlep it back into Statement and they take it from there. Couldn't be easier. I am going to upgrade to an MHT-200 soon so that will be four. All pieces have been bullet proof, flawless and a joy to own.
Not honoring a warranty that should be transferable is not necessarily bad customer service. At least with Mcintosh you can get things fixed, replaced, restored, and helpful info on touble shooting. Try that with some big name brands, particularly imports. I can tell you some stories about that sort of thing even when there is a warranty.
PLEASE!!! If you were to cost out every component that goes into a piece of "HIGH END" gear, factor in labor, R&D etc. we should be getting LIFETIME warrantes. My hats off to companies like Magnepan Bryston and Adcom who still have margins that are based in REALITY. Their warrantes are average their products WAY above average and they manage to stay in business year after year. I guess they must know something that the big boys don't