Reference DACS: An overall perspective


There has been many threads the last few months regarding the sonic signature of some of the highest regarded reference DACS (Dcs,Meitner,Ensemble,Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts) here on the GON. I have been very fortunate to audtion many of these wonderful pieces in my home or friend's systems. I wanted to share, in a systematic way, my impressions/opinions with you GON members for a two reasons: 1)That my experiences might be helpful to fellow members interested in audtioning these DACS. 2)Starting an interesting discussion regarding the different "sonic flavors" of these reference digital front ends. I totally agree with the statement, "if you have not heard it you don't have an opinion". Therefore, I have no comments regarding DACS from Weiss,Goldmund,Audio Aero and Burmester because I have never had the pleasure of audtioning them. I would love to hear from members who have and share their experiences with us. My overall impression is that these DACS(Dcs,Meitner,Ensemble,Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts) can be grouped into two molar categories regarding their overall sonic signature. By the way, all of them can throw a large/deep soundstage with excellent layering in the acoustic space with "air" around individual players on that stage. However, than they start to part company into two major categories. Category #1) These DACS "flavors" revolve around pristine clarity, fine sharp details,speed,very extended top/bottom frequencies,and great PRAT. These DACS never sound "etched" or "in your face" but are more "upfront" then "layed back" in their presentation. The DACS, to my ear's, that go into this bracket are Dcs,Ensemble,Meitner. My personnal favorite in this group is the Ensemble, which I owned for two years. These DACS remind me of the sonic signature of speakers such as Wilson,Thiel,Dynaudio, Focal/JM Labs. Category #2) These DACS "flavors" revolve around a "musical/organic" sense, natural timbres,and an easy flowing liquidity. Their "less forward" presentation my give the impression of less detail, but I think in this case its an illusion fostered by their more relaxed/organic manner. The DACS, to my ear's, that go into this bracket are Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts. I did find that the tube DACS did not have the top/bottom frequency extenstion and PRAT of the SS DACS in this bracket. For me, the Accustic Arts DAC1-MK3 gave me the best of both categories, therefore it is now the resident DAC in my system. These DACS remind me of the sonic signature of speakers such as Magnepan,Von Schweikert,Sonus Faber. Well, it's all just my opinion regarding these digital pieces, but I hope this post was at least informative/somewhat interesting and would lend itself to other GON members sharing their impressions, not about what DAC is the "BEST" in the world, but your personnal taste and synergy with your system.
teajay
I own a cello system with reference dac I hesitate between a purchase of transport or resale my dac to buy a cd player dcs, nagra, emm labs ....or other cd player i need help to choose betwwen these configuration
To me there are two types of DAC's. DAC's that have smooth but somewhat dark (more at the "ying" site) sound with less detail retrieval but often with great PRaT and DAC's that are more "yang" with enormous amounts of detail but at the same time less PRaT. But to be honest current SOTA DAC's are neither "ying" or "yang" sounding: they mix the characteristics of both types.

Chris
The new Theta Digital Generation VIII Series 2 should be put on the "must audition" list. This piece is absolutely incredible, and the best digital I've had in my system. I recently compared it, albeit briefly, to a one box CD/SACD player that is getting a lot of hype on these forums lately.
I preferred the Gen VIII by a wide margin, even comparing the same songs with Redbook only on the Gen VIII versus SACD on the other player.

The analog volume control and two analog inputs are also exemplary, allowing me to eliminate the Audio Research Ref 3 preamp from my system.

Give this one a listen.....
Fsarc, what combination of transport, ICs and PCs did you use with the Theta Gen VIII? And could you give us some detail on how this combination may have exceeded in your view the performance of the single box PD MPS-5? [I can only guess that this is the single box player you are referring to] G.