Why the hate for mcintosh amps?


Why dont people,like mcintosh? Who motivates this?

so what are the alternatives??
emergingsoul

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Spkr says rated for 8 but told to use 4 , b&w 802 d3.  Does it matter?

lower the tap? Is 2 lower than 8?

Instead of green light, maybe purple or red, not pink or yellow.   
like exit lights, cant turn off green.  
 

what if i have green vision allergies, its possible.  

Are mc611 monos good.  Thinking of getting mc2301 tube amp monos.  Good idea?  
 

being used for a pair of b&w 800 series speakers.

Mac amps holding their value???
so bought a multichannel mc amp a couple yrs ago.  And now upgrading to large monos, maybe from mac.

i can get abit below 50% of what i paid.

Clearly, newer mac amps do not retain value and they are fricken heavy beasts. I see so many other credible amps, that are substantially lighter - why is this ???
Runboy,
u must be a dealer with great access.

sooooo many amps to choose from.

so whats diff between a $10k, 20k, and 30k amp.?

Have seen a great 30k amp used for $12k, very tempting, but still 12k.

thx for great reply


So many amps. So how many do AB testing?
Unsound’s above comments are amazing. Curious about your amp preferences.

but what about mac tubes vs their ss. Preferences? they do well with ss but say it sounds tubey. So get the damn tubes.  Tubes would seem better.  Preamps are better with tubes.
Whats perplexing is how difficult it is to try a variety of amps, and then match em up to your speakers.

most buy on blind faith, i suspect.  I have.

industry needs to solve this problem.  Inherently limited options.  doubt many are able to preview many amps.




So i own 10 b&w spkrs to date, and approaching my 4th mac amp.  They get along.  And love driving audis, owned 3 thus far. 
Learned alot about cars herein tonite.


Better getting ss mac amp and tube preamp?  Or a tube amp with tube preamp.

at least a tube preamp makes sense
C1100 has a phonostage, very good one i guess, dont want it.  Crazy to get it and have all that mass and tubes that i dont need.

thats a flaw in their lineup.
‘No discernible diff between components’?

A high quality revealing system will reveal differences. Try eliminating reverbs in room, makes it easier to hear component quality changes.  
Not rocket science.
Dagostino is very pretty. Wilson speakers are kinda ugly. GAT from conrad johnson is dated. Mac can be too iluminated. Tubes are cool. Nagra preamp is industrial, yuck. Audio research is cool. Lumin x1 is sleek and nice looking.
Since the output transformers allow for 2 4 or 8 ohm (i use 4 ohm) variations in speaker needs, why do they have separate connects for each?

why not a single/universal connect to speakers that can handle all 3?.?.?
There is a 2 ohm output connection onback of amp.

is it ok or advantageous to use 4 ohm connection?
Awesome info. Mr george
using 600 watt monos, so 4 ohms good to do. Interesting that using 8 ohms connection would raise decibel level


does increase in damping factor going from 8 to 4 ohms impact ‘open nature’ of sound? Ie. Need more watts to push thru and fully realize dynamic demands of frequencies


Arc tube life is less than 3000, which is probably generous. And so many tubes. No way can u use inside a ht system

scary
More good info on this thread.  All about sharing knowledge, views.  
Its hilarious and oh sooo silly. 



Arc is in same camp as mac.  Appealing optics trump merits of equip.  
Arc fails big time due to tube maintenance issues. It has a congested sound due to overpowered internals. Mac much better with longer tube life by far.
 Arc loved more than mac?
Omg, mc is a great speaker. Why people pay 20, 30k for monos astounds me.  Better spending on a preamp/speakers.

maybe debating tubes vs ss in their line has merit. But better doing a tube preamp.

Side comment - amp racks without casters is dumb.


 

Seems the new, yet to be shipped c12000 preamp is inexpensive/cheap ($16k) compared to other 2 chasis preamps. Is this high end?

would prefer a linestage. Ss vs tube feature is cool.

better choices out there?