Why is there no love for Prima Luna?


I have noticed fairly negative comments on Prima Luna in various discussions. Granted, I’ve never heard their gear but they seem to offer quite a value proposition. Point to point wiring, auto bias, protection circuits, easy tube rolling, good parts and build quality. I had considered looking into the Evo series integrated but the brand seems to be downplayed on this forum. Anyone have direct experience as to why?
cincyhound

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Cincy is pretty much closed up with the pandemic. I’m working from home and not going much of anywhere. At least it affords me time to research and dream about the new system I’m planning to get. Of course I’ve been in love with a different shiny toy every few days. Sooner or later I’m bound to nail down at least one component. Likely choose speakers first then work backwards toward the source. 
OK, I seem to have opened a can of worms here.  I knew that being manufactured in China may be part of it, but expected the more numerous issues to revolve around the sound or build quality, parts or service issues or even reliability. 

Let me ask a different question - As a tube newbie that has been SS (Sansui, Marantz, Hafler, Luxman, Denon & Yamaha) for around 40 years what would be a recommended tube integrated to purchase that will drive efficient speakers (I sold the Dahlquist DQ 10s quite a few years ago) in a medium size, carpeted basement room? Budget for amp is max around $7,000.  Bonus points for auto bias since I'm a tube newbie.
tablejockey  Really, this was not a promo in disguise. I was considering the PL Evo line and wanted to understand why I was seeing mixed comments about PL.  Perhaps my subject line could have been reworded, but I was really trying to get at what were the specific reasons from people with first hand experiences with them. I’m happy to hear about the technical and sound quality aspects - both pros and cons. The “don’t buy Chinese” point has been made, now let’s talk about audio itself. 
Aberyclark I remember Ronco which was right up there with Popiel. Never fell for the pocket fisherman though.
Aberyclark I think you are correct. Ron Popeil was involved with both. Slicing, dicing and thousands of julienne fries..,,,,,,
Dducat

i have looked at the decware online but have not heard it. Reasonably priced too! There is a lot of good tube gear out there now making it hard to decide which way to go. Many options to trial at home, but that still involves shipping costs and sometimes restocking fees. Still better than a blind purchase, but definitely want to narrow field before trying them out. First step though would be to decide on speakers I want and purchase them. Then I could compare them all the same. Still wavering on integrated VS separates. Then we have dac & streamer to figure out .,,,..
After re-reading all of the responses it seems pretty clear that the actual owners of Prima Luna gear are overall pretty positive. As someone said, haters gonna hate. Thanks for the love!