Which Tekton???

@jetter
I agree. That’s why it’s better to ask Eric. :) That guy must be some sort of mad scientist huh! But I wouldn’t be surprised if he could do it in a 3 way design. It may fall under the category of upgrades for the Perfect Sets cause some of the ’higher’ speakers in the Tekton line have that configuration and others have the added 4 inch and up midrange speaker (s) itself. Great thread.

@rox54 & @charles1dad

The pure simplicity of the Perfect SET is very alluring. Owners word of mouth satisfaction is consistently high.

I think that the Perfect SET is going to be more coherent and a better choice overall. Simpler is better.

Are your recommendations based on the fact of having a SET tube amplifier powering the Perfect SET?

Just curious as my next amplifier upgrade will be Solid State and I really had my eye on the Electron SE and not the Direct Impact (which is the same price), because of its size.

Thanks 

But seriously, give Eric a call. The man knows his speakers.

I really like the idea of being able to talk to the manufacturer first so he (or she) can not only make a suggestion of speaker, but if you prefer a specific speaker only - be able to more finely ’tune’ that speaker to the spes of you rig and your (upgrades) wants. To me that’s just more added value IMHO of course.

Chuck,
I had no idea just how good the Tannoy speaker line is. It seems to me they are the ’holy grail’ of speakers. And you sold yours to purchase the Moabs...That tells me a heck of alot about the Tekton line and then some.

@rox54,

Thank you for the correction. I made a mistake. I guess that makes me human.

Why would anyone except for MC make a decision on what to buy talking to the owner or salesman of a company?

p05129

Ahh yes, and here we go. This is where p05129 wants me or someone else and take the bait, and add something negative to the op’s post. In the words of GDub the first, ’not gonna do it’.

I have read hundreds of posts where buyers of hi-fi gear have taken the opportunity to talk to owners of any particular brand of gear.

In fact many buyers of hi-fi gear have made the decision NOT to buy from a particular manufacture because the owner was rude (such as yourself) or didn’t even take the time to return a call or email from a prospective buyer.

Last I checked, this is a thread about Tekton gear and when talking to the owner Eric you CAN specify the use of Clarity caps vs what other caps he has in stock and the same when specifying inductors a buyer can spec Jantzen inductors vs whatever else he may have in stock at the time.

And there are many other upgrades you can specify to Eric. Lastly, Eric requests that you CALL him as it is his preference to talk to the prospective BUYER.

Chuck,
I know you have your haters here and maybe sometimes you can get a little abrasive, but this is not one of those times. So please accept my apologies for confusing Tannoy’s with Talon’s and bringing out the hater(s) here.

Tyray - This is who I am - I’m not hiding behind some moniker.

@dlongj75,
Hey I’m learning too! I just try to sound like I know what I’m talking about! Hah!

For example the Perfect SET is an 8 ohm speaker load and the Electron is a 4 ohm load. Ralph (Atmasphere) has pointed out numerous times on this forum that amplifiers produce less distortion when driving the higher impedance load. He says this applies to both tube and solid state amplifiers.

@ charles1dad,
Which is the higher impedance load? 8 ohms or 4 ohms?
Doesn’t the 4 ohm load make an amp produce double the watts per channel than it would at 8 ohms? Which would equal more headroom?  

dlongj75,
I hope that you were not thinking that I was a hater for pointing out your error about Chuck's previous speakers. I was just correcting the error, not meaning to be unkind in any way.

tyray,
He actually sold Talons to buy the Tektons...very different!


@rox54,
Thank you for the correction. I made a mistake. I guess that makes me human.


@rox54,

It was I that misspoke about Chucks speakers. You did no harm or foul at all. I'm glad you corrected me. Are you trying to let us know you are human too?😊  I appreciated all your input.

The OP likes his rock. My vote remains for the 4 ohm SET 10. Those dual 10 inch woofers and simpler crossovers I suspect will be more dynamic and have greater impact than the Electrons. See what Eric says.

@corelli
That’s the question I want the OP to ask Eric too! The Perfect Set, Perfect Set 15 on the website shows a 8 ohm spec and the Perfect Set 2-10 shows no ohm spec at all. But the Perfect Set 2-10 spec sheet does say this:
'Designed and optimized for all tube amplification rated between 12-120 Watts RMS.' 

I think a 4 ohm Perfect Set 2-10 would be killer if Eric could do it! @dlongj75, I hope you get back to us on this very question to Eric. 

Hi Tyray,
I based my opinion on the fact that the Perfect SET (PS) is a 2 way design (1 crossover) and in contrast the Electron is a 4 way design per Tekton.

@charles1dad,
That actually makes a lot of sense. My favorite speaker designer Henry Kloss would do the same thing.

let roll with what ya bought,save up and addsome subwoofer action later..2 at the very least amd you are golden

@axememan
Sound good to me, cause lets not forget that the Perfect Set 2-10 has 4 - count’em - 4, 10 inch (sub) woofers. That’s a lot of Funk. And if @dlongj75 decided to add 2 more subs later on, oh would he be ’set’. For a total of 6!

@dlongj75, I’m not sure but I think I read somewhere that the array crossover on the Perfect Sets are designed for the single, at the center array speaker to act as the tweeter. Very similar to the Tannoy speaker brand. And the other array speakers that form the circle of the array act as midrange speakers. I COULD BE WRONG. So please, ask Eric.

I think everyone here is right, you can’t go wrong with either the Perfect Set 2-10 or the Electron (SE).

Now for the upgrades, Clarity caps, Jantzen inductors, Beryllium (single) center array (tweeter) speaker,......

Without having heard either, I am just speculating. But I would take the Electron over the Perfect Set any day. Wouldn’t you think that Eric has the 4 way crossover down pact? And the Encore builds on the basic successful skeletal framework of the DI. I would think dual 8" woofers per speaker will give them plenty of slam for rock. I’m surprised you don’t see it this way. JMHO

@jetter
 The Electron sensitivity spec: 95.0dB 2.83V@1m sensitivity
The Electron SE sensitivity spec: 98.82dB 2.83V@1m sensitivity
I would think he does have the 4 way crossover down pat. Doesn’t look like any wasted juice to me?

Yes, the specs state power recommendation of 12-120 watts for the 2-10 Perfect SET, but at 95db sensitivity, there’s little need for 120 watts unless the owner sits three meters from the speakers and wants ~104db peaks at the listening position. For that listener, the 2-10 Perfect SET may be the answer.

@tvad,
I don’t necessarily agree with that as I can turn the volume down to anywhere I want and the more watts the more headroom for detail dynamics and so forth. I’m using a solid state amp. That’s what I have. The specs on the website spec for 400 Watt power handling, so really 120 watts RMS is not that much. In my place we boogie.☺

I understand the reasoning for the Perfect SET 15 vs Perfect SET, but I don’t know the reasoning behind the 2-10 Perfect SET. The specs between the Perfect SET and 2-10 Perfect SET are nearly identical.

The only difference I can see between the Perfect SET and 2-10 Perfect SET beyond the obvious differences in woofers, is front vs. rear porting (which I suppose would affect placement proximity to the front wall).

Can someone who has asked this of Eric explain it here?

@tvad,
What millercarbon said.

The Perfect SET is designed specifically for low power SET amps.

I talk to Tammy today and she told me The Perfect Set 2-10 it is a 8 Ohm speaker. But she’s not sure. Sorry, Eric was in the paint shop when I called.

The Perfect SET - designed and optimized for ’single-ended triode’ amplification between 8-12 Watts RMS
The Perfect SET is 2 or 3 way?
Minimum input requirement: 1 Watt RMS
Proprietary controlled directivity - high frequency performance
Patented 2 gram total moving mass 7 tweeter poly-cell midrange array
8 Ohm
(1) 12" Ulfberht Transducer - Tuned/Timed for single-ended triode’ amplification between 8-12 Watts RMS
300 Watts maximum power handling
$1800

The Perfect Set 2-10 - Designed and optimized for all tube amplification rated between 12-120 Watts RMS
The Perfect SET 2-10 is a 3 way
Proprietary controlled directivity - high frequency performance
Patented 2 gram total moving mass 7 tweeter poly-cell midrange array
? Ohm
(2) Pendragon 10" transducers
400 Watt power handling
$2000

I’m just gonna take a guess that The Perfect Set 2-10 is better at handling both low to high watt tube amplification and low to high watt solid state?

Is the (1) 12" Ulfberht Transducer superior to the (2) Pendragon 10" transducers?

Eric's Perfect Set Introduction | Tekton Design: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHm6dNSQs4k
Tekton 2-10 Perfect Set speakers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37dH2UJ8kaA

Eric specifically states the Perfect SET is intended for 8-30 watts (see video @1:55), then he extends the power recommendation to "30...60...80 watts" (see video @2:38).

@tvad,
Yeah Eric does say what you say above. The only reason I went with the specs on the website because I felt they were more ’nominal’ and I knew you guys would watch the video - and be just as confused as I was to see the specs on the website and then hear Eric say 2 different spec ranges!☺

So Tammy never got back to me today so you got more information than I have.

@dlonj75,

LOL! Tammy got tired of all the Agon callers asking her about the Perfect SETS!☺

@dlonj75,

When it’s all said and done though I’d get the Electron SE. The frequency response is 20Hz-30kHz and the frequency response of the Electron is 30Hz-30kHz.

And in audio we’ll buy something and later on down the road wish we would have purchased something a little better.

Did you ever think about putting up for sale some of your audio equipment you may not use anymore such as your Elac debut 1.0 speakers? That will surely lesson the purchase price somewhat also as we all upgrade our rigs over time.

With the SE you will be set for years to come and I think it will pair quite nicely with your very underrated Outlaw RR2160 rated at 165 WPC into 4 ohms.

See the Agon review of the Electron SE here: https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/tekton-design-electron-se?highlight=electron%2Bse