When has a piece of equipment paid for itself??


I have encountered a phenomena that wasn't part of the decision process 20-30 years ago when considering new gear. You bought it because had heard it or read bout it etc. The one thing I never thought of was
What will this be worth at some later date? It seems thinking back on the era as absurd as if you would sell your T.V. Everyone seemed to use equipment get it repaired a few time and finall get a new on.
But this was a world without the Audiogons, auction sites, and lists. Just the "Paper."
If you sold something it would be to a friend or just a gift to someones nephew.
A friend of mine was considering buying amps I happen to own myself and find them outrageously good. They are relatively inexpensive mono blocs from China. If compared to another set of "prestige" amps that sound like these they would fetch at least 5 times thev price.
Even though they were lauded by the press with many awards and praise by the pro writers.
My friend turns to and says yes they very, very, good really great but what is their resale value going to be. I said resale whatever for and I don't think they would get you a nicee profit, mostly I was stunned. Since when did we start buying everything in terms of flip-ability.
I buy the gear because I like it and know full well that it will never win me a prestige or pride of ownership prize. In all liklihod I'll keep them for a long time.
I buy gear and keep it despite promising my wife I will sell it.
I will tell you that my old Buddy Trelja is selling some gear made by this firm. In the classifieds now. No it is not meant to be an ad. trust me. I just want to give people a chance to see what I am talking about. Moderators take this out if it offends thee.
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I guess we need to find out the depreciation value the company has assigned to that piece of equipment based on salvage value over a given period of time. I am in accounting right now and have had to deal wih many of the same questions in homework and exams, the basic principals can be applied to any commercial product sold to a consumer. One must find out how the company will warrant an audio product, years, months and what is the expected costs to repair or replace such item in the future. The company is betting against large amounts of products coming back, but there is an inherent costs allowed for warranty claims on a companies balance sheet to accomodate the estimated warranty claims. This would be good to know as a consumer as to how much the company claims their product is worth after several years. I found this article to be of relevance and I added the poper credits to make sure we are using the source of information properly.

Of course with e-bay, all of that is out the window!

What Is Depreciation?
Depreciation is the process by which a company allocates an asset's cost over the duration of its useful life. Each time a company prepares its financial statements, it records a depreciation expense to allocate a portion of the cost of the buildings, machines or equipment it has purchased to the current fiscal year. The purpose of recording depreciation as an expense is to spread the initial price of the asset over its useful life. For intangible assets - such as brands and intellectual property - this process of allocating costs over time is called amortization. For natural resources - such as minerals, timber and oil reserves - it's called depletion.

Assumptions
Critical assumptions about expensing depreciation are left to the company's management. Management makes the call on the following things:

Method and rate of depreciation
Useful life of the asset
Scrap value of the asset
Calculation Choices
Depending on their own preferences, companies are free to choose from several methods to calculate the depreciation expense. To keep things simple, we'll summarize the two most common methods:

Straight-line method - This takes an estimated scrap value of the asset at the end of its life and subtracts it from its original cost. This result is then divided by management's estimate of the number of useful years of the asset. The company expenses the same amount of depreciation each year. Here is the formula for the straight-line method:

Straight line depreciation = (original costs of asset – scrap value)/est'd asset life

Accelerated Methods - These methods write-off depreciation costs more quickly than the straight-line method. Generally, the purpose behind this is to minimize taxable income. A popular method is the 'double declining balance', which essentially doubles the rate of depreciation of the straight-line method:

Double declining depreciation = 2 x straight line rate
Double Declining Depreciation = 2 x (original costs of asset – scrap value / est'd asset life)

The Impact of Calculation Choices
As an investor, you need to know how the choice of depreciation method affects an income statement and balance sheet in the short term.

Here's an example. Let's say The Tricky Company purchased a new IT system for $2 million. Tricky estimates that the system has a scrap value of $500,000 and reckons it will last 15 years. According to the straight-line depreciation method, Tricky's depreciation expense in the first year after buying the IT system would be calculated as the following:

($2,000,000 - $500,000)/15 = $100,000

According to the accelerated double-declining depreciation, Tricky's depreciation expense in the first year after buying the IT system would be this:

2 x straight line rate = 2 x($2,000,000 - $500,000)/15
2 x straight line rate = $200,000

So, the numbers show that if Tricky uses the straight-line method, depreciation costs on the income statement will be significantly lower in the first years of the asset's life ($100,000 rather than the $200,000 rendered by the accelerated depreciation schedule).

That means there is an impact on earnings. If Tricky is looking to cut costs and boost earnings per share, it will choose the straight-line method, which will boost its bottom line.

A lot of investors believe that book value, or net asset value, offers a fairly precise and unbiased valuation metric. But, again, be careful. Management's choice of depreciation method can also significantly impact book value: determining Tricky's net worth means deducting all external liabilities on the balance sheet from the total assets--after accounting for depreciation. As a result, since the value of net assets doesn't shrink as quickly, straight-line depreciation gives Tricky a bigger book value than the value a faster rate would give.

The Impact of Assumptions
Tricky chose a surprisingly long asset life for its IT system - 15 years. Information technology typically becomes obsolete quite quickly, so most companies depreciate information technology over a shorter period, say, five to eight years.

Then there's the issue of the scrap value that Tricky chose. It's hard to trust that a used, five-year-old system would fetch a quarter of its original value. But perhaps we can see the reason for Tricky's decision: the longer the useful life of an asset and the greater the scrap value, the less its depreciation will be over its life. And a lower depreciation raises reported earnings and boosts book value. Tricky's assumptions, while questionable, will improve the appearance of its fundamentals.

Conclusion
A closer look at depreciation should remind investors that improvements in earnings per share and book value can, in some cases, result from little more than strokes of the pen. Earnings and net asset value that are boosted thanks to the choice of depreciation assumptions have nothing to do with improved business performance, and, in turn, don't signal strong long-term fundamentals.

by Ben McClure, (Contact Author | Biography)

Ben is director of McClure & Co., an independent research and consulting firm that specializes in investment analysis and intelligence. Before founding McClure & Co., Ben was a highly-rated European equities analyst at City of London-based Old Mutual Securities.