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Want to try separates, what to expect.

Ok, I have always had an integrated amp or A/V receiver (briefly) as my main source for amplification. I started with a Lafayette tube amp that was my Granddad's. I have had a few different SS units from the late 70"s and the late 80's. I now an using a very nice Modwright KWI 200. I have this strong urge to try some modestly priced separates. Is this a move that will bring obvious sonic improvement or just subtle improvement. Just thought I would ask for opinions before I jump off that cliff. I'll likely still try it, you know how it goes in this hobby. Thanks, Allen (Mizike)
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inna
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I consider doing the same in the coming years, well, almost the same because I don't think I need preamp - volume is controlled on a tape deck and I need only one input.
Other things being equal, separates are always a way to go. But cables, cords, cost, space.
inna
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That said, I might choose to go with Gryphon integrated instead of lower fidelity brand separates. It would depend on funds and availability, I guess.
inna
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We don't know about your speakers, your room, your sound and music preferences.
I'll just mention brands that I would consider to begin with if I wanted to make the same move. Solid state - some Rowland, some Pass, all Gryphon. Tube - Atma-Sphere, VAC, Allnic, maybe Octave. Lamm - tube preamp and hybrid amp. Ypsilon is definitely beyond your reach.
Best solid state value - Gryphon Diablo 300 integrated, about $16k new, I think, without phono or dac. There is 120 watt/ch Gryphon integrated for about $9k new, this I am not so sure.
inna
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Well, nothing is quite lifelike, but I think you are in a minority when it comes to Gryphon, Diablo 300 is a hell of a piece and is worth every cent. But tubes are tubes. However, I know that even most hard core tubeheads appreciate what Gryphons can do.
There are also of course a few Swiss integrateds worth considering, and I think couple of Italian, don't remember the names. Some say German T+A integrated is great too, very possibly, don't know.
$12k used is both a lot and not enough, I would have problems within this range. Cables and cords are not exactly free either.
inna
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We don't know what he expected but yeah, it's not bad, might complicate matter, though. But it's a serious decision, better look at it from every angle.
inna
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Dealers enjoy working for free. The man is going to buy used. Unless he is going to buy from dealers auditioning is forbidden.
inna
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You live in the world of 17 posts. Where I live is none of your concern.
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