Vandersteen 5a, 15 years old vs. new Vandersteen Quatro Wood (upgrade or downgrade)


I currently have a Vandersteen 5A purchased about 15 years ago in great condition. My  equipment  is Thor 150 watt  tube EL-34 monoblocks with a Thor linestage, Sony SACD player and a middle of the road VPI turntable. Was reading about the Vandersteen Quatro Wood CT which I believe retails for $15,000.00. The wood has the carbon tweeter, my 5A's do not. The Quatro also has a 250 watt amplifier for the built in sub while my 5A's have a 400 watt amp.  If I purchased a new Quatro Wood and sold my 5a's would the resulting sound be better overall in my 8 1/2 by 15 foot room?
 My rationale for considering this upgrade, is that I would be getting a speaker with all new parts and would obtain a new warranty.  Any thoughts would be helpful.  In short is todays' Quatro Wood CT a better sounding speaker than my old 5A?  Would this change be an upgrade and would it yield an improvement in sound to justify the cost?

Thank you. 

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BTW just drove 1,300 miles to hear a pair of 7’s ( mine )... ha, big fun

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How wonderful to hear this :-) enjoy the music !!!!! Say hello to Johnny for me
Jim
@gdnrbob I made the change when I changed from SE amplifier to balanced so I cannot make an exact comparison for you. I sold my filters when I got the M7 amplifier which has built in high pass. I think Johnny R could comment on a direct comparison between the 5 and 7 filters or give RV a call. I chatted briefly with him today - he picks up the phone!!!

new builds of the 7 filter include Fire Audioquest wire.
@intermediatic you might consider the model 7 high pass filters on your 5a, not a megabuck upgrade, gets you WEL signature pigtails and better sound - Johnny R can help. In your big room that 5a push pull must sing ! I had my 5a in a massive room and they were eye watering with Ayre power.

have fun, enjoy the music.
Also, any of the powered bass model Vandersteen can be run with high pass filter in place with the sub off - this approximate a super high quality mini monitor - dial in placement and imaging and then turn on and adjust the bass.

all in the manual, free download 
A firm grasp of the obvious is always helpful, 

where did the OP say it was an option to change the room ?

and owners of ANY speaker and Room combination would find the Vandersteen setup manual helpful for a math based placement of the acoustic center of a speaker, vs an arbitrary 3’

i hope to always be learning, I am sorry IF I have offended you in some way.
Also send me or post up the post EQ results, which will shock even the rational :-) big fun
Hi Johnny R

i am so so glad the OP called you for a tune up ! I woke up in the middle of the night running his room node calculations in my head - I know you know this, but for others, max cut on the bottom 2 potentiometers can be a great trick also !!!!

wishing you well brother 
lets shift gears, what speaker are you recommending that does much ( or anything) to change the distances ?

for what it’s worth many of the studio control rooms I spend time in are not much bigger, with lots of bounce off the board. The near field and powered bass can be a wonderful thing ;-)


Is it ideal ? No, few audiophiles enjoy ideal
will he be more in the near field ? Ya
can he tune bass yes
can he tame some first reflection yes with toe in and absorption 
does he already own 5a yes
is better sound possible: always
how are you helping him ??????


Actually no, he has 11 octaves of analog EQ to tune his bass and fix room node issues while placing the speakers for better imaging.

OP a phone call w competent Vandy dealer or Richard highly recommended, who is your nearest Vandersteen dealer ?

best 

jim
Cedar - yes the 5a and 3a- sig do have common tweeter and mid. The powered bass takes so much strain off the amp that upper frequency benefits by an amazing amount, add in a better crossover, more ridged cabinet and its no contest. The 3a signature is a might fine speaker, my brother has my old pair w ARC pre and Threshold power - they sing
Tough call. I am going to assume your DBS batts in the low pass and the crossovers are fresh. I think RV would question in your smaller room IF the 5a push pull bass driver is superior to the Quattro. In the right room it is. The carbon tweeter is super sweet, I have the 7 mk2 and the Treo CT. I listen for hours on end fatigue free. I had 5a and 3a sig for years w mostly SS power amps but arc and Mac tube preamps. Vandersteen often shows w arc and VTL tube amps, RV loves tubes. His big power amps have a tube front end.
give him a call, he picks up the phone.
the advice you got on considering his 5 high pass power amps is spot on, just heard them w Kento... they are so sweet:-)
best of luck in your journey, enjoy the music