VAC 160iSE integrated with NOLA speakers


Given the superb home audio that I have been enjoying recently thanks to my new VAC 160iSE integrated coupled with my NOLA Metro Grand Reference 2 speakers and Synergistic Research cabling/power, I thought I would post a few brief comments about my set up for those who might be looking into any of these products. When making my recent amplification changes the enormously talented team at VAC gave me open and very insightful advice, as I hear they always do to anyone trying to set up a system with products of his design. By the way I understand that there will be a very similar VAC/NOLA set up by Mike Oltz of Xtreme Fidelity (who sold me my VAC160iSE) will be exhibited at the upcoming September 2014 audio show in Brooklyn, so there is an opportunity for anyone interested to hear this set up for themselves.

VAC’s 160iSE integrated puts out 85 wpc just like the original 160i, differing from the original in having (as I understand) a superior transformer, and also a special phono stage (that I have yet to use). It uses trickle down technology from VAC’s statement products. I had and loved the VAC 300.1a and Renaissance Mk3 preamp before the 160iSE. Given that my 87dB NOLA Metro Grand Ref 2 speakers don’t need the extra power, I decided to trade them on Audiogon for the 160iSE especially after hearing from Kevin Hayes at VAC that the new integrated performs in some ways at the level of VAC Statement products.

Having had the VAC160iSE at home now for two or more months or so, I can only say that the sound it produces in my system is truly fabulous – superb, open, rich mid-range without any edge and full of presence, great clean high frequencies. And I never find myself missing anything in the bass area compared to what I got from my NOLAs using my old higher powered VAC electronics. By the way, the NOLA Metros reach down into the low 20 hz region. I should also say that my room measures about 21 feet X 14 feet X 8.5 feet, and I understand that for larger rooms I might need more power or more efficient speakers.

The VAC160iSE definitely outperforms in very gratifying ways my previous, already superb VAC separates. And while I don’t really know the ultra high-powered VAC Statement system, I have heard it with NOLAs similar to mine, and based on that I would tend to echo Kevin’s insight about the 160iSE relative to those amps, although of course there is a big difference in the wpc output which probably has an impact in some ways. Since it needs far fewer tubes and has all its tubes out front, it is friendlier both cost-wise and logistically for tube swapping.

I should also say that I also very much like my NOLA Metro Grand 2s, with their open, 3D and natural yet detailed sound, and their (from all that I have heard) unequalled way with vocals. They are an excellent match with VAC amps. I understand that NOLA has a brand new upgraded Metro Gold version (newer even than the Gold version he introduced last year) that is a significant advance over earlier Metros. So I am looking forward to hearing those in September at the Brooklyn show.

My cabling is SR Element Tungsten, and I also use SR’s PowerCell8 Mk 3 which is a very helpful thing in NYC. I have had extremely positive outcomes using SR’s innovative UEF technology based bullets, HFTs, FEQ, ECTs, XOTs, etc. Their excellent products definitely work very “synergistically” with the rest of my set up.

Perhaps those with similar audio set ups or preferences have suggestions of interest for me. Look forward to those.

Thanks
agriculturist

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I came very close to getting the 160i to use with my Nola Micro References, but fell in love with the Shindo sound so got a Monbrisson preamp and a Phi 200 amp. Got the amp and speakers from Mike Oltz (Xtreme Fidelity); I will second him as a fine dealer who really knows how to show the strengths of these two products. Those with the opportunity should check out his setup at the Brooklyn show.

I have a similar problem to Wrm 57's, as the amp is very sensitive and the Shindo has a lot of gain, so it has been difficult to get past 7 o'clock on the Shindo's volume control. Ultimately I have used some 12db attenuators to solve the problem, seems to work quite well.

Not sure at this point if I have any suggestions for the OP, sounds like he has a great combination. How do you have the Metros set up--toed in or firing straight out? Short or long wall? I know Carl has told me to go straight out/long wall placement in my fairly small room, and I've been happy with the setup, curious if you've tried otherwise.
Check with VAC, but I doubt they'd be recommended. Given my experience in Jadis amps, I would prefer the KT88s to the 6550s for the better midrange (6550s had good bass control but were leaner in the mids and highs). As for KT 120s, read Kevin Hayes' blog on the VAC website as to his feelings about that tube.
It would be nice if he could do that for my Phi 200, but I wonder if that's possible.

Kevin Hayes responded to my question by saying not at this time, but it certainly wouldn't hurt to ask every six months or so... you never know!