Tube life


Hey guys/gals, happy Labor Day weekend! Newbie here.  I recently purchased my first piece of tube gear (the McIntosh hybrid integrated). I’m loving it, even with my power hungry Maggies. Anyway, will I notice a marked degradation in sound as the tubes age? Or is it a gradual glide path to less-than-Nirvana  sound? Thanks for your comments! Any suggestions on tubes other than stock? 
jrod68

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Darn millercarbon , you can't say stuff I agree with. It is not fair:)


Nor is it easy. What I mean is, tubes vary so much from brand to brand and even tube to tube its very hard to say anything meaningful about them without someone else being able to say something completely different- and both of you be right!

I mean, I used to think tubes were really reliable as maybe only one of probably 30 or 40 had ever really failed on me. Then in short order I had two flare out quite dramatically- and one of them was brand new! 

There really is hardly any difference between tubes, not only between brands but even between certain types. KT88 is better to me than 6550C but not by much. JJ is better than Svetlana but by even less. But I'm comparing relative to something like a $150 Quantum Fuse or $60 set of BDR Cones or even something like running a demagnetizing track through your system. Those range from 3 to 10 times more important than the difference between tubes, which to me makes buying a new set when you already have a set a waste of money. But another guy might think a barely noticeable improvement for $500 is the moon and the stars. So both can be right and it is darn hard to say without being set up either way to get skewered.

So good to know. Thanks.
Running several tube amps for close to 30 years now I have sometimes replaced tubes early (few hundred hours) more often replaced them after a few years (thousand hours plus) sometimes even run till they died. Almost always it seemed if they degraded at all it was way too slight and slow to notice. Trying new tubes hoping to improve the sound almost always is a total waste of time. Its not that there aren’t differences. Its that the differences are too slight to bother with. And I will bother with an awful lot of really minor stuff. But the difference between tubes, its a crapshoot but in general there is less difference between tubes than between the same tube new out of the box and after running a few hours. The best tube of all I have tried is the JJ, which is also the cheapest. Tube rolling, hoping for some sort of transformatory revelation, is just nuts.

Unless you spent $1300 for your 300-B. Those of course are totally worth it. Eyeroll.