The thing about objectivists is...


Listening is the essence and central activity of music appreciation. Listening is purely a result of the essential reality of subjectivity, and not that of any "objective reality" which is assumed to exist "out there." The human mind tends to rigidly cling to measurements, pedestrian concepts, and elaborate abstractions in attempt to simplify, subdivide, define, and categorize within the immensity of the realm of the experiential/subjective.

Over-reliance on concrete definitions and ideas serves to attach oneself to a sense of stability and security. The mind secretly hopes this will sufficiently ward off the uneasiness of feeling unsure, or off-balance, about one’s actual degree of comprehension regarding a given topic.

But what is it that is capable of registering sounds, recognition of patterns, recalling memory, and awareness? It’s pure subjectivity. It’s not the brain. That’s only an idea which is based on an entire system of definitions which define other definitions. The mind fortifies the boundaries of its interconnected structure by using circuitously self-reifying definitions.

Consider this: A description of a thing, proposed by the human mind, is only of that which a thing is not. A thing’s reality is not the same as its description.

What is it that is present in the pure silence during the instant just prior to sound waves propagating into the air space of the listening room? What is it which listens?

It’s subjective awareness, devoid of mental content. Your ideas aren’t listening, your experiential awareness is listening.

The more one thinks the same boring ideas one’s been thinking for years, the less one can listen. Subjectivity is the self-existent authority prior to the discernment of any quality, measured quantity, or the detection of that which we term "music". The deeper we can relax and sink into pure, silent subjectivity, the more deeply and purely we can listen and behold. Our subjective awareness becomes purer and less colored, our mind becomes more open and flexible, and experiential reality is seen to be the ever-present continuum which is of the greatest value of all.

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@asvjerry : it is not a list. It’s just one dude. With multiple banned usernames. He has not posted@theaudiomaniac most recent username in a a day or two, so likely got banned again, but he will be back, with yet another username. He always does.

@holmz : LOL!! Not sure he is terminating anything, although I can see what he is trying to do over the years and multiple usernames. Nothing to worry though, he will be back. As I said before, maybe four of his usernames ago, three things are certain in life: death, taxes, and this dude coming back to Audiogon forums.

I read the OP, then immediately thought about 3-4 people who will immediately jump into this thread hurt by it. Then I read the comments: I was 100% right! Here they were ASAP!

The clock says that is is 9am. Is that the truth of what the actual time is? Or just what the clock is suggesting to be the truth, which is subjective?

But a clock is quite objective and has no opinion about what time it is.

I promised to refrain myself from posting any longer on this thread. But I cannot help but laugh very hard on this extremely super stupid analogy. You “objectivists“ dudes (or is it deaf?) cannot stop cracking me up.

 

@theaudiomaniac 

 

Oh boy.... it did not take you long to resurface here yet another time. I sounds like I now have to another name in my long list:

 

theaudioamp

 

deludedaudiophile

 

thynamesinnervoice

 

cindyment

 

snratio

 

yesiamjohn

 

sugabooger

 

dletch2

 

audio2design

 

dannad

 

roberttdid

 

roberttcan

 

heaudio123

 

audiozenology

 

atdavid

Funny how his desire to not contribute is shown in the number of times he contributes.

If you combine his posts under all usernames I listed above, he has more posts than any Agon user. By a very long stretch. Check this out: He just "joined" a few days ago, and already has 42 posts. Watch the space here for further drama in every single thread. 

 

How many times can a phoenix rise from it’s ashes?

As many times as one can create brand new Gmail accounts. Basically unlimited

....if he keeps this up

You bet your fancy cables he will!!! 😁😁😀😂

 

He was likely given the customary 30-day initial warning first. Watch the forums starting on 9/24/22. He will light them up again with the same username. Then banned permanently, then come back with a new username. Repeat.

 

 

I don’t know whether he was banned. I am just speculating. Based on historical precedent and tradition of said individual.

 

But as I said earlier, don’t worry. He will be back. With yet another username. Guaranteed. You can bet your lamp cords on that 😉