Synergistic Research - NEW Element Cables

02-25-13: Ted_d
Sabi writes:

"After I read the Stereo Times review I came away feeling that I had a very good sense of what to expect from these products. I found their review typically clear, concise and to the point." ...

TOO FUNNY!!!

02-25-13: Sabai
First SR created all those extra wires that drives people up the wall trying to find a way to keep them all plugged in and keep them all organized -- and clean. Do you realize how many wires are going all over the place with a fully loomed SR system with each wire and component attached to at least one adapter (MPC)? No ...

BLAH BLAH BLAH ... !!!

02-25-13: Sabai
Photos of the inside of Jack Bybee's Stealth power conditioner are available for viewing but I have not seen any photos of the inside of your PowerCell. I have heard that one customer opened up the PowerCell and was shocked with the contents. Would you kindly post photos of the inside of all your versions of the PowerCell so we can see what is inside so that we can compare them? It would be useful to have more than manufacturers' ad copy and reviewers' kind words with which to judge these expensive products.

Do you buy it for the SOUND or admire the contents on your mantle? More pointless BLAH BLAH BLAH ... !!!

In my world, there's a difference between build quality and what's precious little inside. Build quality is very important where a product has to be reliable, durable ...

In regards to what's precious little inside, this is a question where customers have to answer for themselves and NOT isolated to high end audio. Thousands for Armani suit vs < hundred at Walmart ...

Besides cost of raw material, one needs to factor labor/expertise in building a finished product. High end audio is a niche market where demand and supply are low so prices will be high. Each has to decide if the product is snake oil or worthy of the asking price.

IE: HD P3 is $750 for 2m. Copper is $1.68 per oz ... P4 is $2100 ... 3x a P3, does P4 contains 3X more raw material+labor to build and WORTHY of the retail price?

How about the Bybee speaker bullets ... thousands for spade connectors.

No right or wrong but all individual decisions. If too many decide it's snake oil, company will go out of business.

For me, highest priority is sound quality so frankly don't care what's inside, specs, marketing jargon ... BLAH BLAH BLAH!!!

02-27-13: Bacardi
@Knghifi, I don't think thats what Sabai is trying to say that if he "Admires it or not", the issue at hand which Sabai is trying to ask which I totally agree with is what are the actual contents of the Powercell 10SE,MK2,MK3,MK4,MK5,MK6,MK7??????etc.
I myself owned a Powercell 10SE and my friends asked what is inside the unit and all I could say to them is that it has an Electromagnetic cell inside for $5000.00. Everything bought nowadays has a breakdown of the inside contents. Shouldn't the Powercells?
Bacardi (Reviews | Threads | Answers | This Thread)

Rum,

When your friends ask you what's in the HD P3 and price. You tell them, copper and graphite ... $750 per 2M

How about P4, You tell them copper and graphite but 3X the price of P3.

Then what does your friends say next?

I know what my non-audiophile friends would say. BLAH! BLAH! BLAH! Just ignore them, we all have out own priorities and hobbies.

In my world it is always noted when a maker intentionally overbuilds to hide precious little inside -- and who then overcharges for the great "build quality" illusion.

Then don't buy it! Is somebody in your world twisting your arm? Boy, glad I don't live in a 3rd world country.

I find it interesting that you do a Google search and find photos of the inside of the Bybee Stealth but you will never find a single photo of the inside of the Qx4 or the PowerCell.

Who cares what's inside if it doesn't sound good. Do you know why you're buying the product?

IE: If Rum wants to power his toaster, he can buy a copper PC off Ebay for $5. Now why does he spend $750 for a HiDiamond copper P3 and $2100 for a copper P4 PC? If the answer is NOT for the sound, then he's wasting his $$.

I bet cost of raw material to build the one off Ebay is close to the P3 and P4 but HD is able to manufacturer a PC that sounds better. You can't judge the book by it's cover but in this case, it's the precious little insides when quality of sound should be the most important reason for a purchase.

For those with deep pockets this may add up to nothing more than a big yawn. Because, if the latest version of the PowerCell does not meet expectations, or if the Qx4 does not match the Pro, then who cares. They can be sold off at a loss -- who cares -- and replaced by another expensive product. Who cares.

Hmmm! I THINK the root of your frustrations / BLAH BLAH BLAH is your SHALLOW pockets???