Speaker Isolation -- Experience with Townshend Seismic Isolation Podiums


Over the past several months the new Townshend Seismic Isolation Podiums have been receiving some interesting and positive press. Living as I do in both an earthquake zone (Pacific NW) and in a busy urban setting with a lot of rumble from construction and passing vehicles I thought these could be worth exploring for my setup. As I was not able to find a US distributor I purchase direct from the UK (via Analogue Seduction, highly recommended). I placed an online order, with follow up to confirm the size and weight of my speakers and about six weeks later they turned up on my doorstep (the platforms are made to order with loading on the cells specific to the weight of your speakers)

The Isolation Podiums are basically four load cells attached to a robust platform onto which you stand your speakers. While not cheap ($2500 for the size I needed) they are very well designed and easy to use. For example I was concerned about being able to move my 275lb Magico Q3s up onto the platforms -- actually it was easy as the platform at 20mm is lower than the speaker spikes so it was simply a matter of unscrewing each spike and shuffling the speaker across. Once onto the platforms fine leveling was easily possible by adjusting each load cell. All in all the podium system is very well designed and works exactly as intended.

But how does it sound? With several days listening experience I cannot recommend this product too highly for anyone who wants to hear the best from their speakers. My room is custom designed with a concrete slab floor so a solid surface but of course subject to external vibration. Prior to the podiums I'd been enjoying deep and dynamic bass but had occasionally felt that the sound became congested in more dynamic and complex material. With the podiums all of this clears up. First impression may be of less bass but as is typically the case this was a result of a reduction in boom and smear and instead more of the open sound of real bass (think of a bass drum as being more "whoof" than "thump" after the initial leading edge - too often the sense of large volumes of air being displaced is lost. In addition I became much more aware of all the rhythmic leading edge detail in bass guitar passages, all the little cues the bassist is putting in. Furthermore it became much easier to resolve bass alongside other instruments. Example in point "Bye Bye Blackbird" by Nancy Harms (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd4tQrndlFw). This opens with deep full bass which is a first test but then quickly becomes quite a crowded and in many systems overloaded mix. With the podium in place all of the instruments became much easier to separate and what had been a congested and even edgy mix became clear.

One final and unexpected change is how you can now more easily hear the recording venue. Listening at the start of recordings the sound of the room itself is a very low level mix of rumbles which (when it's present on the recording) is all too easy to lose -- the podiums help uncover this detail and create a much greater sense of real instruments in space. All in all I'd recommend you give these a try and no need to believe in voodoo to buy in to this tweak.
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Thanks Shaizada -- I know Dan and am aware he distributes Townshend but as Ozzy pointed out neither he, nor any of the US sellers, have specific details on the podiums. From others I do know however that the US pricing is basically the same as the UK (although the recent weakness of sterling is another reason to consider buying direct I suppose). As these are all custom builds you are also not going to get them any quicker wherever you buy them. Whatever speakers you use I'm sure they'll work well

Regarding the DiscMaster there are a few things to bear in mind. As this is a suspended design you will need to get springs that work with the mass of your tonearms. The Kuzma is a very heavy arm (2kg) and I'd worry that it will unbalance the turntable -- this would be the one I'd mount on a stand alone pod if I was you. In any case make sure Dan provides you with a good range of springs so that you can get the armboard to level. Finally it's essential that the allen key securing the arm board is tight with the board mounted level, easy to miss, especially as the table comes with really no setup instructions --- ideally having Tim walk you through set up is the way to go.
I think you will like the results with the podiums, not sure what size suits your speakers as I am not familiar with them but as long as you ensure that the speakers will sit easily on the base and the weight rating is good (100kg is no issue) then you should be fine. Townshend recommends you remove the stillpoints and any manufacturer spikes and have the speakers sit directly on the platform. Presentation will be different to what you are familiar with along the lines I described in my original post
shaizada -- thanks so much for your update, great to hear about your positive experiences with the Townshend products

Also congrats on the DiscMaster! Mine is currently sporting a Durand Kairos/AirTight PC-1 in the first position and a Wand+/Miyajima Zero in slot two.

https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/5707#&gid=1&pid=6

I have a Acoustical Systems Palladian on order to replace the PC-1 and am toying with adding an AS tonearm as well -- the DiscMaster really makes it easy to swap tonearms once you have the spring balancing down (and a good stock of springs on hand), great to hear you were able to get the weighty Kuzma all set

Have you ever tried rotating the arm board so that the two arms are at 2 o’clock and 5 o’clock (i.e. board is positioned on the right rather than behind) -- I understand this was the original design intention?
@agriculturist I still use the Townsend podiums under my speakers. I would imagine placing a speaker on a Herzan platform would actually cause some major problems as the output of the speaker transmitted into the platform would then be attempted to be cancelled causing all sorts of issues. In other words Herzan cancels vibration from outside the instrument, not from the instrument itself.  Try at your own peril! 
@rcprince re tweeter height you make a fair point but as the Townshend podiums are designed to be used without any other sort of spike or footer (i.e. You have the bottom of the speaker flat on the podium base) the added height is offset by the elimination of the existing spikes etc
@shaizada re your concerns on weight distribution I think the option recommended by Townshend is to locate the speaker slightly back in the platform that way the tendency to tilt forward is countered as Geoff suggested.

Please do however consult with the dealer who is supplying you as they are the ultimate arbiter. The podiums are usually custom built for your particular situation so they will know what is best to do
I've not compared the individual pods to the podiums but despite the lower price there are a couple of things I'd bear in mind

Firstly getting a set of pods under your speakers may not be easy especially as they will be pretty unstable until you have all 4 in place. Not a one man job for sure

Secondly depending on the footprint of your speaker it may be less stable on the pods than the podiums. Tall narrow speakers on pods might be worrisome. The podiums act as a wider base
I still am enjoying what the podiums are delivering for me. Over the past year i have made a number of changes to my system that substantially improve how bass is presented and the podiums have really let this come through. Specifically a) adding a super tweeter and subsequently fine tuning speaker set up (including dealing with some close to ear reflections) has cleaned up the leading edge on bass notes making them much more clear and crisp, and b) changing the power cords on my mono blocks added more subtle definition and an extra perceived 1/2 octave -- the bass sounds less loud and bloated but is much more tactile -- again without the podiums a lot of this extra energy and detail would simply dissipate into the floor instead of being projected into the room. 

I'm sure other speaker isolation solutions will work as well so do try something if not the Townshend products
@david_ten you can use the spikes to raise the speaker as needed -- the platform is sturdy albeit it scratches quite easily