REL Quake or ACI Force for semi small room



Rega Planet, P3, Mira (old clamshell style)
Ruark Prelude R's (gorgeous speaker and midrange)
QED Silver Ann / Quect 3's

Looking for a musical sub to fill out bottom end in a semi-small room with hardwoods. Owned a Strata III and Rega Vulcan and loved both. I'm torn between REL Quake (smaller, british synergy, 23hz-6db) and ACI Force (return policy, more air movement from 10in driver, 20hz-3bd). Both are around $750.

Any suggestions? I know, both will work beautifully but maybe someone has some other insight.

Thanks,
Matthew
Seattle

britergy

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Thanks, the DD technology sounds interesting but I'm priced out.

Anybody heard an Essex SW-1? Essex is the OEM from REL, Ruark, and Rega subs. www.essex-audio.co.uk

Matthew
I'd love to get a Strata again. The problem is that they are no longer imported to the US. Why, I have no clue. My local dealer says that the Q150e is more popular. Yeah right, the Strata III is universally reconized as a fabulous piece. Not the most impactful sub in terms of moving air, but tight and oh so musical. So, myself and lots of other 2-channelers will be wrestling over the few Strata III's that people sell used. I can't believe I sold mine initially. Stupid move.

Anyway I am referring to an Essex SW-1 (www.essex-audio.co.uk). This sub is a bit smaller (12 x 12 x15) than a Strata and uses a 120W amp. Essex builds the REL subs (and Ruark, Rega too). So supposedly, they're cutting out the middleman and selling direct trough a US importer. The SW-1 sells for around 1K and goes down to 18hz. It all looks good, I just haven't been able to find another enthusist who's heard one. I'm not going to drop the $, without a second opinion to the dealer.

So, anybody heard an Essex SW-1 out there?

Matthew
your right, that is a concern of mine. i can't remember where i had the Strata crossed. my Ruark floorstanders go down to 48hz so it will be cutting it close. i'll email essex and ask them why the 40hz. i noticed their super sub the SW-3 also crosses only down to 40? weird, maybe they have an explaination or the website is incorrect.

matthew
Agreed, I should wait for a Strata III. I'm crossing my fingers...

Below, I've copied the Essex response. If I remember correctly it is better to cut the sub off lower than let the mains than to have them playing the same notes. This would product a bloated sound in that range. Any thoughts here?

So being able to cut the sub off lower than 40 seems important.

Essex response:

We have found from experience that the having the crossover at 40Hz has not limited the use on all but the best floorstanders, this is partly due to the fact that although the specs on the floor standers may say they go to 35Hz this is normally a -6dB point or even a -10dB point. That said when setting the sub up you would need to set the crossover slightly higher than the lower notes on the main speakers. The lower limit of the SW1 is about 25Hz.

There is a limiter on the SW1 and I would say that it possibly very similar to the REL, out of interest we produced the REL models up untill about 3 years ago.

Regards


Tom Pearce
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yes, the guys at ACI recommend using a 60 or 80hz passive high pass filter on the mains. this just plugs inline to the interconnects b/t the pre-amp and amp.

i am curious if anyone has done this?

it certainly makes sense to not drive the speakers as hard in the lower realms.

at the same time, the thought of putting a cheap capacitor into my system seems like an added complication. because i have an intergrated, i'd have an interconnect leaving the pre-amp outputs, looping out, through the crossover, and right back into the amp input = weird.

my local dealer says that the high pass addition is silly, that the speakers roll off naturally where they should. the sub should just augment this natural roll off.

hum?