Ocellia cables IC why not much talk?


I've been listening to some Ocellia interconnects now and am just amazed at their naturalness and tonality. They have great detail and sound staging. Would be intested in hearing from others who have any experience with this line?
rsf507

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I would suggest reading about MDI. The concept of Interface Micro Discharge is part of what drives the Ocellia brand and sound. It is now relatively common throughout Europe to build communication and audio products using techniques to combat MDI. This concept was developed by an engineer in the French telecommunication industry.

Basically the use of silver (which when oxidizes still conducts electricity unlike copper) and organic insulators including cotton based materials, minerals and rubber. Oyaide silver ends are used on the set I own.

Strangely North American manufacturers seem to be turning a blind eye to this theory but as others have stated the sound results of equipment and cables following anti-MDI procedures seems to be very repeatable and predictable.

I ended up buying 300B amplifiers, pre-amp, cables and speakers all from Ocellia who manufactures all the above in Montreal except the speakers (made in France) and for the most part sells direct where there are no dealers. The drivers (PHY) are now owned by Ocellia and the cabinets are made custom to order in France as well.

I have owned equipment from McIntosh, Mastersound, Moon, Tannoy Churchills, Atma-Sphere, Manley, Cary, PS Audio, Metrum and probably others I am forgetting.

I went to the TAVES show last year to hear Ocellia. Everything was Oceliia except the speakers which were ZU. I was blown away. I went the following day to see if I felt the same way. I was dumbfounded that the sound was much more flat and bass heavy! I then discovered the cables had all been switched to Kubala cables at multiple times the price! I knew immediately the effect and theory of MDI existed and Ocellia was onto something.

From that experience I then went to Montreal for a more intimate audition. At the end of that audition I ordered a complete system. I say this so you may take what you will from any comments I make from that reference.

I am so impressed by this hand built, home built, product that I offered up my living room in the Toronto, Ontario area for anyone to listen to Ocellia who did not want to travel to Montreal.

The problem with cables is they should never alter the sound of a system but there are so many poorly implemented components in the world that cables are often times used to fine tune for a weakness in a system. The problem is if you ever change a component, especially a weak component that was causing your initial dissatisfaction you will then be in another loop of cable replacement.

Ocellia cables do not alter a system's sound. They are simply revealing and pass through from one end to another. If the sound is not good with these cables in your system you need to look elsewhere than the cables. That can include components but also the room and where your system is positioned.

Having said all that I would suggest to anyone who is looking to get more out of their system to read Get Better Sound by Jim Smith. With his life long experience you could save a lot of money by utilizing the tips he has in his book and DVDs. You could spend tens of thousands of dollars on equipment trying to get that sound that gives you the emotional impact you are looking for and still be disappointed. Every room is different and every room will play on a system, the trick is to find the position for your speakers and equipment that best takes advantage of the room you have!

That then opens the door to Franck Tchang resonators and other goodies that effect sound and our environment that we listen to music in!

The Ocellia brand is not like other commercialized products. I doubt they will ever be in many dealer show rooms and their cables being hand built will never be mass produced. They are very special for systems that have the ability to reveal.
The Ocellia speaker drivers not only have no crossovers but they also use Alnico magnets and silver wound voice coils. They have an impedance of 16 Ohms and have a heavy brass ring and cage that is critical to their performance. They also have the ability to be grounded which allows for another layer of grunge to be removed that is created by the static charge generated by the driver suspension. This is something Tannoy has been doing for years now. It is very easy to test and repeatable.

I believe Jeff's Place blog has an blurb or two about this and his experience with grounding.

All these things add up to a very fast, responsive and revealing speaker.
Rsf507, When I was auditioning Ocellia I went to the TAVES show in Toronto to hear the system. They had the whole system hooked up and driving Zu speakers. I was there on a Friday and loved the sound. I returned on Sunday to hear the system again with a friend and when I went into the room the system had lost life, lost some air and it felt heavy. Too heavy. I was saddened as I thought I had miss-heard the system two days prior.
In taking a closer look, Ocellia had been obliged to change all the interconnects and speaker cables to a brand he was sharing the cost of the room with. I will not mention the name of this brand, you may be able to find it searching 6moons review of the 2011 show. The replacement cables were five to ten times the cost. It was the cables that had given all the weight but it was the wrong weight, it was imbalanced.
As the years go by I have learned what balanced sound is, I am still learning but any cable that adds or takes away is a scary proposition. Ocellia cables do not do that, I own a complete set and the Calliope.21twin speakers. With a revealing system one has to be cautious with cables that influence the sound. The Ocellia cables simply pass everything through, all the high, all the deep grunting lows and most importantly all the information in the middle. If something is lacking with Ocellia cables in your system, it is not the cables doing it.
Having said that with less revealing systems in the past I certainly would entertain modifying the sound with cables, unfortunately as your ears and brain matures and learns about balanced sound you will hear the artificial influence in your system. Although some people never do learn or care about that. That is okay as long as they are happy, but those same people can often be the ones making comments most about what this cable or that cable adds or takes away from their system.
Hope this helps a little.