laid back speakers

Von Schweikert VR-1. Warm, easy to drive, great sounding, imaging, soundstage, detail, etc.

>>However, you are VERY wrong about describing it as warm<<

Hmmmm.....VERY wrong, huh?

From Stereo Times Review --

"the VR-1 captures a lot of midrange meatiness and warmth...the treble in general seemed a bit recessed."

From Enjoy The Music --

"Bass response, while hardly room-shaking, is fuller and warmer than any minimonitor I recall." 

From Sound Stage ---

"The VR-1 certainly isn’t bright-sounding...couple that with the weighty bottom end and a tinge of warmth through the mids, and it all makes for a surprisingly open and full-bodied presentation."

Seems I am not the only one who describes the VR-1's as sounding, "warm."

Either we are all VERY wrong, or this is just a matter of opinion-- and you are apparently in the minority :-).

>>or recommending it as a laid back loudspeaker.<<

Here's what I wrote --

04-05-05: Rsbeck

Von Schweikert VR-1. Warm, easy to drive, great sounding, imaging, soundstage, detail, etc.

>>but not laid back.<<

I did not call them, "laid back." Though the poster claims to want "laid back" speakers, I still think he should put the VR-1's on his audition list.

>>Especially, when you enlist the help of reviewers whose opinions don't
carry much weight with most.<<

What -- their opinions carry less weight than yours? Obviously, there is a
difference of opinion and yours is only one impression among many.

>>The VR1s are NOT warm speakers<<

You mean, they don't sound that way to you.

Obviously, others disagree.

I still think the poster should put them on his audition list.

>>Personally, I feel my opinion is correct<<

>>they are wrong in their feeling<<

I think you need to do some affirmations, you need a little more confidence.

That was all very interesting for various reasons.

Maybe it's just me, but I find your posts unpersuasive. I think you're trying
for authoritative, but instead they come off just a tad....oh, let's
say....strident.

Sure, I'll buy your speakers -- tell me how they will sound to me.

Just kidding.

Nice chatting with you, Trelja.

Been interesting.

We seem to have lost the original poster. My take on his post is that he
believes his amp -- Nakamichi AV-8 -- is tonally "bright" and he wants to
find speakers that are tonally "warm" to counteract this effect. So, when he
says "laid back" -- I think he's talking about tone, not necessarily
dynamics.

But, after doing some research, I have a hunch that the brightness is a room
problem.

I went to www.audioreview.com to read what Nakamichi AV-8 owners have to
say about the unit.

Not one owner in 37 reviews called the amp "bright."

Here are some of the comments --

"Very clean, warm sound."

"The sound is sooo warm."

"Clean, warm sound, decent power."

"Warm, clean sound."

"Has that Classic Nak warmth."

"Excellent, warm, full amplifier."

http://www.audioreview.com/amplification/a-v-receivers/Nakamichi/
PRD_118692_2718crx.aspx

Not to beat a dead horse, but "WARM" *is* in the ear of the beholder, so the
original poster may be hearing the same amp as "BRIGHT" or it may be that
the brightness is coming from somewhere else in the chain -- like the room.

It'd be helpfull if we could get a description of his listening room.