Is the color in the amp , the preamp, the souce?


I'm sure I have seen this discussed at different points in time, but seeing that I just bought a new for me 5 channel ATI 1505, it got me wondering again, especially when I read this can be a "Cool" sounding amp.

Sorry in advance if I am ignorant on this subject, I am trying to learn. If I don't ask, how will I know???

My interpretation was that power amps were supposed to simply amplify the sound, with the better amps having lower distortion and higher actual power. I also understood the more neutral the amp the better. Now I realize tube amps are a different animal altogether, so my focus is on solid state only here.

Would it not be preferable to add any coloration (if one so chooses), warm, cool, what have you via the source and/or the preamp? This being said, and if true... what makes say a Bryston, Krell, Mac, or any multitude of expensive amps better, all things being equal? Let's say all the amps we are considering all put the same #'s up, same wattage, same low distortion, and they all use a large torroidal transformer, so they all have plenty off juice. Would you get seriously different sound if all the other components were the same, and if so Why? Obviously differing the power changes things, but lets go hypothetical here for comparison sake.
I have a hard time understanding (all specifications being equal) how an amplifier can sound different. Isn't all the signal processing done in the pre, the source, or both?

Again, sorry for my ignorance. Sometimes a little knowledge is more dangerous than none :)
baxter178

Showing 1 response by bob_bundus

1)There's no such thing as neutrality - all components render a sonic signature of some sort, and every one is different. The only thing that sounds the same is all of those doubting Thomas's who say that "all __x__ sound the same". Many devices may sound the same to the untrained ear, and not all listeners are as sensitive to these sonic differences. This is where the argument can certainly become ugly.

2)The trick to this is to find a desirable synergy between all of your componentry, that which matches up with your sonic preferences. So that signature which you prefer doesn't necessarily match up with one that I, or anyone else, would prefer. You have to please yourself, and nothing else really matters. The colorations of componentry, cabling, and speakers all combine into the overall sonic signature which you hear. Your goal is to find the characteristics that you like, then combine (synergize) them into your overall perferred sound. This is not easy.

3)"Better" is what sounds better to YOU alone. So even if the front end is all the same, speakers are the same, cabling is the same, and the listening room is the same, then simply changing the amp alone will indeed result in a different overall signature. Why? Many contributing factors go into these variables such as design, component variations, and the interaction between the reactive characteristics of upline cabling, the component in question, and the downline cabling.

4)Ignore the specifications; that has little to do with it. Much componentry, cabling, and speakers are all well designed & built in the present state of the art. Power output levels are not so much of a contributing factor either, except at the extremes where headroom and clipping come into play.

5)It will take you years to understand all of this, and even then you'll only have a clue. No one knows all the answers, and the more you know the more questions you'll have. Read these forums often, and do avail yourself of the multitude of knowledge found in the forum archives. That is what they are there for and you will learn a lot therein. Enjoy it: it is a lot of fun, it is at times confusing, and everyone has differeing views so keep that in mind. It's all about opinions, and everybody's got one.