Is a highly discerning system enjoyable?


I argue that in terms of musical enjoyment, connection, feeling the musicians and composers maybe a highly discerning system is going too far? Maybe I want the warts airbrushed out.  Maybe I like a system that lets me listen to a broader range of recordings  without whincing?

Then there’s systems which are discerning of performances vs. discerning of upstream gear. I personally feel they are not the same thing at all.

Lastly, if your room is an acoustic mess, how can you tell?

If you feel strongly either way I'd appreciate examples of the gear that made you go one way or another.

erik_squires

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@cdc

See if you can find any articles about Steve Lillywhite and his work with U2. The simple answer is they use what we would call sub-par speakers as their reference. Then go listen to U2’s War and see if you can hear everything that’s missing.

Then read about how Pink Floyd was mixed.  That will explain the chasm between the two approaches.

 

What does this mean?

Not sure where the disconnect is, @cdc 

The producer was famous for saying his target listener used a stereo cassette player (i.e. boom box) as his reference.

@perkri  I only heard these on CD, if you have vinyl you may be having a totally different experience than I did.

@perkri It is a better sounding album overall, but the bass is still just more of a hint of what drums sound like instead of actual drums. 

The lyrics and guitar caries it.

If there was ever a recording that could benefit from a remastering, War should be on that list. 

 

@perkri  If memory serves, it was remastered, but AFAIK it was just a marketting gimmick.  It was not in any way I could tell better.

So much missing in the production. Preferred it in the car

@perkri 

Right?

The problem I have w this recording is how there seems to be a heaping amount of mid/lower midrange tone that is missing. It’s missing in both systems.

And to think this was before digital drums were really a thing.  I mean this is the producer making drums sound awful.

Have any of you ever listened to a system built by an audiophile who kept chasing details?  They end up in some very weird places.

The producer for U2 at the time and Pink Floyd had extremely divergent opinions of what to do with bass.  It is so incredibly apparent. 

Often when I bring this up I think of U2 War.  Great album, mixed for boom boxes.  Is a greatly revealing system going to prevent me from hearing this album?

On the other hand, some recordings are not salvageable on high resolution systems. 

 

Can't we argue though that the high resolution system in some cases IS what makes a recording sound a lot worse?