Int Amp for Thiel CS 3.7

Anyone familiar with the Audionet Watt Integrated ?How does it compare to the T+A 3100 HV ?

I agree but when you have limited budget you have to make a choice.

Under €10K.

Any experience with the Modwright KIW 200 SE ?

Pass Int 250 or Gryphon Diablo 300 ?
Which has the right sound signature for CS 3.7 ?

The Pass INT 250 is doubling down to 2 Ohm.

The French distributor on his website, i don't know if this is true :

http://www.zedhifi.com/product.php?id_product=59

I spoke to an old Thiel dealer and he told me after having tried many different brands like Pass, Bryston, Classé, ASR, and McIntosh, the best of them all with Thiel speakers is Sugden  and also Luxman :

https://www.sugdenaudio.com/sapphire-series

techno_dude you said it all.
unsound for Sugden you have the SPA-4 or even better the FBA-800.
For Luxman i think it's the M-900u.

Kalali sorry but i absolutely don't like Mark Levinson's lastest amps and Int.

Dave and Troy many thanks for your input, i diden't think T+A would be on the warm side therefore i will have to check them out.
There is no distributor in my area but i guess it would be possible to order directly from Germany.
As for Gryphon i have auditioned the Diablo 300 and liked it very much, a lot of weight and darker sounding, would be a good match for the CS 3.7
Dave and Troy any experience with Sugden ?

carmenc how about this combo :

http://dandagostino.com/products/classic-series-2.php

http://www.vac-amps.com/productPages/SignatureMk_IIa.html

I would have to save up for quite a while lol.

Dave do you think the T+A HV 3100  will be more refined and have more magic with my CS 3.7 compared to the Diablo 300 and the Vitus RI-101 ? or is it a close call ?
Thanks,

Thieliste

I finally have a T+A distributor in my country since april 2018 so i will try to get in touch with him and see if it is possible to demo this gear.
The Luxman L-509X looks beautiful but i'm not sure it has the juice to drive properly Thiel 3.7s.
Thanks Dave for the information, your making me curious about this T+A brand lol

@david_ten  Thanks for your feedbacks on all of this gear that you were able to audition, i'm surprised you prefered the T+A 3100 over the Ypsilon Int, that does speak to me.
I'm a big fan of Ypsilon, last year i was fortunate enough to demo the PST-100 preamp and the Aelieus II Monoblocks in my system and was blown away but here we're talking €52K worth of gear.
Yesterday i spoke to the new T+A distributor who just got back from Munich and he told me the 3100 HV should retail for about €13K.
Anyway i might be able to compare the T+A 3100 HV and the Luxman L-509X at a dealer's.

My 2 favorite sources for this new system so far are Totaldac Seven and Aries Cerat Kassandra 2 Ref, but i'm also looking at more reasonable DACs like the PS Audio Directstream or the Aqua Formula.

Some reviews of the T+A PA 3100 HV with it's separate PSU :
http://www.ta-hifi.de/wp-content/uploads/HiFi-News_PS_3000_HV_PA_3100_HV_Review_05_17.pdf
http://www.ta-hifi.de/wp-content/uploads/stereo-magazine-issue-10_mp_3100_ps_3000.pdf

What do you guys think about the Bel Canto Black ACI 600 all in one.
Does it compete with much more expensive separates ?

I have auditioned the Bel canto Black top of the line a couple of years ago on a pair of TAD compact Ref, very clean sounding but didn't blow me away for $55K.I think just under $20K there are many competitors that are more musical.The 4 integrated that i really have to audition before making a decision are the T+A PA 3100 HV, the Ghyphon Diablo 300, the Vitus RI-101 and the Pass Int-250.I'm sure one of these four will be a perfect match for my speakers.The difficult part will be to home demo each one of them knowing that not a single dealer carries all four brands where i live.

If someone can describe me sound of the Vitus RI-100 or the newer RI-101 that would be a great help.It seems that there is no Vitus distributor in my country anymore.

The new Vitus SIA-030 class A might be something to explore also.Price will be pretty scary.

I got some news from Vitus, they told me the SIA-030 integrated amp will be released end of this year and price will be €30K in Europe without the DAC option.

@jafant the best one i can think of is d'Agostino Momentum Integrated if i don't go separates.Did you find an amp to drive your Thiels ?

Hi guys, i'm still searching for the right SC and IC for my Thiel CS 3.7

Right now i'm really not happy about my Gryphon VIP SC and IC, they are way too clear in the trebel and too lean sounding with my speakers.

I really nead much more meat on the bone an better bass.

I'm in the process of auditioning cables and so far i got the best results with Cardas Clear Beyond SC and IC.

Yesterday i brought back Kubala Sosna Sensation SC to try out and today just received Tellurium Q Statement SC and IC.

Will make a shootout tomorrow and let you guys know.

 

@yyzsantabarbara  My Audience and Kubala dealer told me not to try the Audience Front Row because of lack of bass with this cable if paired with 3.7s.

He recommended me the Kubala Sensation which is much thicker.

I'm now demoing the Kubala Sensation SC and the Tellurium Q Statement IC in my system.

This combo is actually pretty good in my system, much more engaging and organic, smooth and liquid.

Tomorrow morning i will try the Tellurium Q Statement SC and see if it can outperfom the Kulaba Sensation SC.

Let you guys know.

Forgot to tell you guys that this sunday i'm doing a big shootout between my Gryphon Diablo 300 and the Audionet Humboldt integrated in my system.

This is going to be pretty spectacular!

Sorry forgot to respond to you guys.

I ended up choosing the Gryphon Diablo 300 for my Thiel CS 3.7s.

Might upgrade in the coming years to tube linestage + stereo amp.

Meanwhile i have a very well balanced system.

After having used a Gryphon Diablo 300 with my Thiel CS 3.7s for a year i was never really satisfied by the result.

I had quite a bit of harshness in the trebel and listening fatigue.

Lately i started looking for a much warmer and liquid sounding integrated and found a dealer demo Vitus SIA-025 Mk2 in Belgium.

The Vitus is in another league compared to te Diablo 300, it is so much more refined, laid back, sweet and very smooth.

In class A it also has more bass than the Diablo 300 this is pretty surprising.

I'm really happy to have pulled the trigger, the SIA-025 is a spectacular integrated that would equal much more expensive separates.