Hypocrisy within the speaker industry


One of the biggest problems in speaker design is that you have speaker designers claiming that speaker design is a highly skilled job that requires great expertise. 

The problem is, there is no standard within the industry which can be used to prove that a given speaker meets that standard and therefore is satisfactory. 

What is there to differentiate a speaker designed by a fraud from that of a real designer? NOTHING. 

In conclusion, speaker design is open to anybody that wants to try it. Its not a private club for members only. There is no skill or expertise involved since there are no standards to decide if the end product meets the required standards. Anything and everything is allowed. Thick cabinets walls, thin cabinet walls, resonant cabinet walls, flat response, smiley curve, gently decreasing, NS10 type curve, flat vs non flat impedance curve you name it, it's all considered acceptable. 

There are no qualifications required to be a speaker designer. The fact that some have degrees is coincidental and irrelevant. 

Next time you listen to a high end speaker, just remember that folks. Until we have strict standards, this hypocrisy will remain within the industry. It's time we have standardization in the industry so we can weed out the charlatans. 
kenjit

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I am heavily considering putting a speaker on the market.....
Who am I..... nobody really knows,
But I've designed, built and repaired several hundred of speakers,
Yet, who knows me?  
I've rubbed shoulders with legends, but I'm not a legend...
wait, how did the legends become legends?  
Hmmm, this is difficult.  
I hope that If I do this, my speaker/speakers will be judged by what they sound like, not who I am or who I am not. It will take buckets of money to get this started.  
Good chance that I won't do it, I may invest in something a bit more safe, but still.....

And that's the market.

What kenjit doesn't see is how badly he's knee-capping himself. He thinks standards are the answer. Should drop that one like a hot rock after reading me, but he won't. Oh well. His loss. 

Strict standards had nothing to do with Paul Klipsch developing the Klipschorn, or with Eric Alexander building Tekton. Strict standards had nothing to do with Duke Lejeune building his Swarm subwoofer system. All three of these, horns, low mass multi-driver midranges, and distributed bass array, were developed and refined the way all things should be: by some guy doing the best he can and .

Period.

Strict standards not only won't help, they will in fact do actual harm. Which should be obvious from reading my post above.

Strict standards would pretty much bar guys like you from even coming into the market. Because you'd have your own idea. But some bossy guy already decided your idea is banned. Why? Doesn't meet his standards.

Here's a good one for anyone thinks standards would help. Ralph Nader made a name for himself destroying the Corvair, the rear engine car made famous in his book Unsafe At Any Speed. He pretty much proved by his standards it was the folly of putting the engine in the back that made that car so deadly. A whole book devoted to it, and nobody has made a rear engine car ever since.

Except, oh wait, what's that car, the one that's been voted Performance Car of the Year more times by more reviewers over more years than anyone can keep track of? Porsche 911. Rear engine Porsche 911.

Strict standards are the last thing we need.

Good luck with your speakers. May you become the next Eric Alexander. May kenjit see the light. We can always hope.
One of the biggest problems in speaker design is that you have speaker designers claiming that speaker design is a highly skilled job that requires great expertise.

The problem is, there is no standard within the industry which can be used to prove that a given speaker meets that standard and therefore is satisfactory.

What is there to differentiate a speaker designed by a fraud from that of a real designer? NOTHING.

In conclusion, speaker design is open to anybody that wants to try it. Its not a private club for members only. There is no skill or expertise involved since there are no standards to decide if the end product meets the required standards. Anything and everything is allowed. Thick cabinets walls, thin cabinet walls, resonant cabinet walls, flat response, smiley curve, gently decreasing, NS10 type curve, flat vs non flat impedance curve you name it, it’s all considered acceptable.

There are no qualifications required to be a speaker designer. The fact that some have degrees is coincidental and irrelevant.

Next time you listen to a high end speaker, just remember that folks. Until we have strict standards, this hypocrisy will remain within the industry. It’s time we have standardization in the industry so we can weed out the charlatans.
Fascinating. Strict standards. I see.

And who provides the standards, kenjit? Would it by any chance be you? No? Guess it will just have to be me then. What? You don’t like that either? Who’d a thunk. Okay well then how about we set up a committee, appoint some people, let them develop the strict standards? What’s that? You don’t like that either? Okay then how about we put a bunch of names in a hat, draw... no? Not that either? Dang kenjit. I’m starting to get the feeling there’s no pleasing you.

PS-
What we have is called a market. Not hypocrisy. Market. You could look it up.