Hookup wire for tube amplifier?


Wondering what kind of of hookup wire you guys have used and which you liked best. I'm considering OCC copper wire...the VHaudio OCC wire with Airlock seems interesting. Most have described OCC wire as very smooth but with detail, even a little dark. But I prefer that over bright.
http://vhaudio.com/wire.html

I tend to stay away from silver wire just because IMO it's a gamble. It can sound too bright and tonally thin sounding, although detailed. But if you know good silver hookup wire, I'd be interested. I find the Duelund silver hookup wire intriguing.
http://www.hificollective.co.uk/kits/pdf/duelund_wbt_interconnect_review.pdf
dracule1

Showing 3 responses by larryi

I don't think any generalizations about wire hold true. There are good examples of all kinds of wire. I have never heard Audionote silver wires to sound overly bright in any of a number of tube systems I heard them in, my own included.

The only way to know how any cable will sound in a particular setup is to actually try the cable. Most dealers allow for auditions, and there are on-line companies that have a "library" of cables that they offer for home trial.
There are so many factors that go into wire design, not just conductor material, such as insulator dielectric properties, basic configuration of the conductors, etc., that I would never focus on design aspects, much less one particular design aspect (conductor material).

Cable companies try to distinguish their products and justify prices by touting things like silver conductors, or continuous casting, cryogenic treatment, teflon insulators, static electric charge to polarize the insulator, etc., but, the real value the better makers provide is intellectual--a combination of all factors/material into a good design and critical listening in voicing the product. Yes, it probably does make a difference whether a particular cable is made with silver wire vs. OCC copper, but, that one factor is so small a contributor to the sound as to render choice based on that alone to be meaningless.

I can appreciate that it is pretty hard for some people to actually audition components in their own system so some purchases have to be made as "informed" guesses. For that, you should generally ask around about specific cables (not designs) and find out what people have paired with their tube gear.

I have a local dealer that only sells tube electronics (aside from digital source gear). He likes the sound of NBS cables (but hates dealing with their crazy ownership), Audionote (uk) and Snake River. He said the best cables he has tried in his store is the liquid conductor T.E.O. cables, but he doesn't sell them because of the extreme price of the better stuff.
Jetrexpro and Dracule1,

Since there is no consensus on what is "neutral" or "no effect," every comparison is with respect to some other component. I would expect Teflon to be different from other kinds of caps, so in that sense, they have a sound. In one of my linestages, the sound is a touch leaner, quite detailed and fast sounding (the zing to the treble you mention). I like the teflon caps in this application, but, I have no idea if this quality is, in any absolute sense, good or bad. In other gear, I've heard radically different sounding caps sound great, so it appears to be the specific application that matters most.

I am thinking of trying the Duelund CAST caps and inductors in the crossovers of my speakers. This would be easy to do because the crossovers are housed in separate boxes instead of being inside the speaker. I have not been tempted to perform surgery on my current amp and linestage because they were specifically designed and voiced to use some very ancient parts and I think the builder would take out a contract on my life if I tried major alterations (besides, these have transformers on all inputs and outputs and no caps at all in the signal path).

Please keep us posted on your experiments. It seems like you are doing interesting things.