Honest question about cartridge vs. turntable performance.


I’ve been a vinyl lover for a few years now and I have an ortofon black cartridge setup with an mmf 5.1 turntable with acrylic platter and speed controller. My question to all the vinyl audiophiles out there is this. How much difference does a turntable really make compared to the cartridge? Will I hear a significant difference if I upgraded my turntable and kept the same cartridge? Isn’t the cartridge 90%+ of the sound from a vinyl setup? Thank you guys in advance for an honest discussion on this topic. 
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@millercarbon  I totally disagree concerning the demotion of digital sound to analog sound.  They are different but not incompatibly inferior to one another.  My CD reproduction has the same (or better) PRAT, tonality and dynamics as my analog reproduction.  The analog has the extra breath of life.  Analog can also have many problems from the vinyl pressing.  The biggest difference is mastering and either one can have great or not so great mastering.  I used to do all my semi-professional recordings on R2R, then DAT, now on a digital recorder.  I know the difference is there but there exists an advantage to each type.

As to turntable/arm/phone stage/cartridge-My modded $1100 1989 purchase of an SME IV arm sold last year new retail at $4600.  My phono stage would cost over $10K today (I paid $1500 20 years ago).  The Audio Interface SUT is now again available directly from Jensen transformers at the same price.  My turntable is a VPI TNT VI and would cost at least as much as I paid to replace it, if not more.  Only the cartridge is expendable and I chose to pay $2K 14 years ago.  Now I'm looking at $3K to $3.5K.  I am not willing to spend more even though I can afford a more expensive cartridge.  I like my tonearm because it is so durable and VTA is not as critical per LP as some other high end arms.  
It is possible to spend more on the front end analog and less on the amplifier and speakers and get the best sound.  Buying used efficient speakers (like a Legacy Focus speaker for $2500 or Signature IIIs for $1600) and a lower powered tube amp (but one with a good power supply for low impedance, maybe a new Prima Luna)  will leave ample funds for a higher end phono stage, cabling, turntable, cartridge and arm.  Again, one can purchase really good quality used analog as well such as a used Jelco or SME arm, used VPI 19 or SuperScout, Aries or Classic.  I would only buy a new cartridge unless the cartridge came from a reviewer who never wears out cartridges as they go through so many.  There are many very fine high output moving coils like Dynavector which gives up little or nothing for their 20X2 (I've heard it on a higher end system and it sounded wonderful).  So, don't box yourself into a rigid percentage guideline.  It's best to mix and match the best equipment for the price (but match the cartridge to the arm and the amp to the speakers).