Help with sonos connect


Hearing a good amount jitter coming through sonos connect, which is running though a 1st generation dac-it, by peachtree audio. Visited my local shop today, they stated the new dac-it x would improve sound due to asynchronous chip or set up or modification of sorts?

Curious what other dacs could improve sonos? Does the Wyred4sound mod eliminate the need for an external dac, or does it just clean up the signal that is being sent to dac?

And if there is a better dac out there to receive the clearer signal for sonos listening, I'm all ears.

Don't know a lot about this stuff, but trying to learn. New world for me.
kernalsanders79

Showing 4 responses by audioengr

A new DAC is not the way to improve Sonos. A reclocker like the Synchro-Mesh in between the Sonos and the DAC is the ticket:

http://www.empiricalaudio.com/products/synchro-mesh

Customer reviews:

http://www.empiricalaudio.com/news-and-reviews/synchro-mesh

If you add the Dynamo power supply and the BNC-BNC cable, you will have a reference digital source.

Steve N.
Empirical Audio
Theo - you have definitely heard jitter. You just don't know what it sounds like until its eliminated. All of the industry experts agree that jitter is the #1 problem with digital.

Trying to fix jitter by changing DACs is like trying to fix a flat tire by moving people to different seats in the car. Its a waste of time and money and will never get you there.

Steve N.
Empirical Audio
"what is the difference between the Sonos re clock mod and what you are selling?"

Modding the Sonos will certainly improve things, particularly if you replace the clock and the clock power supply. I used to mod more than 40 different products from 1990-2009. Many are still in use. However, if I though that modding the Sonos was the right approach, I would be doing that, but its not.

The low jitter that you can achieve with an external reclocker with a custom power supply is jut not achievable with mods. Mods have the disadvantage of using the existing infrastructure, boards and power supplies and even the same power outlet. You are faced with too many compromises. Doing the master clock in a separate reclocker has no compromises. The designer has complete control over everything. Putting the clock in the reclocker like the Synchro-Mesh on a separate AC outlet is even a big win for performance.

There is very little risk in trying a Synchro-Mesh anyway. You can get all of your money back, less shipping if it does not knock your socks off. Try to get your money back on a mod. I don't think so....

We sell direct only, to minimize the cost to customers.

Its not that ANY DAC will do, but most DACs will sound wonderful with a low-jitter input. DACs are a personal taste thing, and a system thing. Every system has its quirks, so matching a DAC to the system is sometimes in order. If your system sounds a bit harsh, then maybe a tube DAC is best etc.. Its also a matter of budget and expectations. If your budget is low, then maybe a Concero for $700 is the ticket. If you are a perfectionist and want to get as close to vinyl as possible, then maybe a $20K dCS. Every one of these needs a low jitter digital source to sound best.

Steve N.
Empirical Audio
The problem is that the digital source quality is more important than DAC or preamp or amps. You can use a Sonos and drive a $150K system and it will still sound mediocre, like stereo, not music.

The source is exactly where you should put your money in a digital system. At least then you have a good signal to work with and lesser components will still sound decent. At least then you have a chance of achieving a system that is non-fatiguing and fun to listen to.

Steve N.
Empirical Audio