Good Amp/Preamp for "bright " Thiel 3.6 speakers ?


I have a pair of Thiel 3.6 speakers that I am quiet fond of. I bought them a few years ago after listening to them on some very expensive equipment at a stereo store. They have been great at home with clean tight bass and exceptional detail. I am finally ready to get a decent amp and preamp to compliment these speakers and I am looking for a recommendation.

The two things that I have learned about these speakers is that they are considered to be Bright and power hungrey. The minumum power required to drive these monsters is 250 watts. I personally would say that they are extremely revealing of any flaws in a system and not "bright". And when paired with the right equipment they are beautiful, clear, and present a remarkable soundstage which is what I love.

So what I am looking for is an Amp / Preamp combo that provides beautiful detail and imaging but no Brightness or Harshness. I need a combo that with amaze me with detail and presentation but will also let me listen for hours without exhausting my ears. The ultimate complement to these speakers.

I have browsed around this site for a few days and have stumbled across the following mainstream equipment but have not been able to make a decision about a single item let alone a pairing.

Bryston amp 4b-st 250w $1,100.00
Rotel amp rb-1090 380w $1,200.00
Krell amp kav-250a 250w $1,350.00
CJ amp mf-250 250w $1,750.00
Bryston amp 4b-sst 300w $1,800.00
Musical Fidelity amp a-308cr 250w $1,900.00
Krell amp kav-2250 250w $2,000.00
Musical Fidelity int nu-vista 300 300w $3,000.00
Musical Fidelity int tri-vista 300 350w $4,200.00
Krell int kav500i $1,700.00

Krell pre kav-280p $1,800.00
Krell pre kav-250p $800.00

I know there are other great pieces out there and I haven't really gotten a feel for the available preamps yet but the conrad johnson preamps have caught my eyes a few times.

I am hoping to spend less that $4000 total and would be happy if I could keep it under $3000.

I haven't decided on a cd player but may end up with a high quality DAC later. For now I just want to get the amp and preamp and then start auditioning cd players.

Thanks for any help you can give me.
montanarane

Showing 2 responses by mrderrick

Audio Research tube pre, Classe SS amps and MIT interconnects/speaker cable. If at all possible, try NOT to toe the speakers in.
Sorry for my "short" post, I was short on time. I've owned a pair of SCS's, 2.2's and still listen to a pair of CS5i's. I used a ARC LS15 and Classe CA100 along with MIT 330 interconnects and MIT 750 speaker cables with great results Now I have a ARC REF1 with a Classe CA400, MIT 350 Ref interconnects and MIT Twin 770 CVT speaker cables. I don't recall the installation instructions from the 2.2's, but the 5i's suggest pointing the speakers straight ahead. This may create a problem with first reflections depending on your room. This can lead to listener fatigue to the point that stabbing an ice pick into your ear would hurt less than listening. Toe in can help a bit, but now those tweeters are angled more toward your ears. I've had the best results firing forward and treating the first reflection points on the floor and walls. I have a sloped ceiling, so I don't treat it. Many people feel that Thiels are bright and fatiguing(?). It just takes more effort to dial them in. The extra effort will pay off. Best of luck to you!