True, but DV-60 still does not have a true VRDS Neo transport. . . Why not get an X-03, which is not terribly more expensive than DV-60? |
Ah yes of course DBLD, no magic to it. . . up to 800 hrs the beast was on full time almost 24/7 for almost 6 weeks, with the rest of the system turned off unless I wanted to do some listening. After that point I slowed down a little. |
UX-1 is universal multichannel. X-01 is CD and SACD multichannel. |
Anthony, After 850 hrs of playing time I thought the X-01 sound had stopped changing. However, with hindsight, I realize now that a subtle evolution still took place until the unit had approx 1200 hours of playing time on it. |
Audiofeil, I would claim in fact that it makes no sense to evaluate an Esoteric product with any less than 800 hrs on it for RedBook alone.
DISCLAIMER: I am an X-01 owner, but wish I were also an Esoteric dealer. (chuckles!) |
How many hours of playing time did these devices have on them? A Fully broken in Esoteric unit would have upwards of 40 days of continuous playing time on it. Considering that the DV-60 has just reached the distribution channel, finding a broken in unit so early in the distribution cycle would be quite a feat. |
Respectfully Frankpiet, with 200 hrs of playing time, Esoteric gear reaches 20% to 25% of total breakin time. 200 hrs is simply the magic moment when they no longer sound painful to the ear. Keep that creature playing for another 6 week, then bother listening to it once again. |
TVAD, that's the problem. . . so many manufacturers and dealers manage to convince and assure end users that just about 100 hrs of break-in or less are plenty, just to get those bothersome consumers out of their corporate collective hair. In the end they do themselves a royal disservice, as we are witnessing in this particular case.
As for myself, the last device I purchased that required less than 200 hrs of breakin was a bread toaster! |
Sorry Frankpiet, I have no interest in cars.I broke in My X-01 for approx 850 hrs of almost uninterrupted playing time, while I left the rest of the system turned off days at a time. It turns out I should have broken it in for a couple of more hundred hrs, as the sound actually still kept refining after that milestone. |
I should like to add that, having a tender heart by nature, I cannot bear the thought of any Esoteric players being thrown out the window in a tizzy after an incomplete break in period of 400 hrs or otherwise. If anyone were tempted to follow Frank's radical advice, please get in touch with me first. I will be delighted to provide you with the mailing address of my humble audiophilic abode, where your abandoned unit will be sure to find an nurturing and loving adoptive family! |
Perhaps the "absolute digital polarity" or phase? Is there such an on/off setting available on the DV60? |
Congrats Dave and best of luck. Please do let us know how you like the UX-1 Se as it breaks in. Be patient with it. The 100 or so hrs of breakin suggested by TEAC are for the birds. Guido |
Oops, looks like my finger slipped. My finger pressed the '1' instead of '3' by force of habit. Guido |